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Sheffield Party Of Women candidate threatened with arrest for leaflets

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ItsFunToBeAVampire · 27/06/2024 18:56

Not much info about this yet, but just saw it on Twitter.

BREAKING. Party of Women
@SheffieldPOW
candidate in Leeds has been threatened with arrest for the leaflets she distributed on a charge of malicious communications.

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Christinapple · 28/06/2024 00:18

NoSnowdrop · 27/06/2024 23:52

Ah well let’s get Troon added to the dictionary along with cis, terf and queer. All equally offensive terms eh?

how do you know LGB people don’t use the word Troon? Or the TQ+whatever?

If tr**n was to be added to official dictionaries it would be listed as a derogatory slur. Which btw, cis and cisgender are not.

For anyone wondering, there is a definition given by Hatepedia here:

https://hatepedia.ca/guide/explicit/troon

Hatepedia describes itself as "Hatepedia is an online database and resource centre built with original research to provide educators, parents, lawmakers, and researchers with tools to identify and counter the proliferation of online hate made possible by the Government of Canada"

Sloejelly · 28/06/2024 00:17

Gloomysaurus · 28/06/2024 00:04

I don't see where the homophobia accusations in this thread apply. What has happened that is homophobic?

An earlier post suggested criticising a Green candidate was homophobic because she was gay.

TheCultureHusks · 28/06/2024 00:11

NoSnowdrop · 27/06/2024 23:52

Ah well let’s get Troon added to the dictionary along with cis, terf and queer. All equally offensive terms eh?

how do you know LGB people don’t use the word Troon? Or the TQ+whatever?

Put Dunoon and Portree on there while you’re at it. No debate I say.

Gloomysaurus · 28/06/2024 00:04

Datun · 27/06/2024 23:52

Proponents of gender ideology believe a biological man who is attracted to women can be a lesbian.

And therefore lesbians should include him in their dating pool.

Hence lesbian only spaces are shutting down and going underground to avoid 'lesbians with penises'. And groups like 'get the L out' being formed.

See also 'the cotton ceiling'. (Training on how men can 'break through' lesbians' knickers.)

And the ex head of stonewall claiming lesbians who don't accept men as lesbians are akin to 'sexual racists.'

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I don't see where the homophobia accusations in this thread apply. What has happened that is homophobic?

NoSnowdrop · 27/06/2024 23:52

Christinapple · 27/06/2024 23:39

There are multiple threads on here discussing cisgender and the prefix cis. Both are listed in dictionaries with definitions, no dictionary describes them as a slur. Look them up.

Tr**n in the context Louise McDonald uses is is not listed in any official dictionary. Its definition can be found in slang/urban dictionaries which describe them as offensive slurs. It is only used in an offensive manner and it not used by LGBT people. Forums such as reddit and Facebook which do not tolerate homophobia or transphobia will issue bans for its use.

I've seen JK Rowling use "TERF" as well as advertise merchandise with "TERF" on it so I would presume that means it's not offensive?

Ah well let’s get Troon added to the dictionary along with cis, terf and queer. All equally offensive terms eh?

how do you know LGB people don’t use the word Troon? Or the TQ+whatever?

Datun · 27/06/2024 23:52

Gloomysaurus · 27/06/2024 23:40

I don't understand where the homophobia accusation is coming from. I hadn't heard the word troon before and the definition I've just found said it's a term used about 'trans' people.

Homophobia is prejudice against LGB people ie anyone who is same sex attracted. If a biological male (whether or not he believes he is female) is attracted to another biological man (whether or not he believes he is female) and encounters prejudice because of the same sex attraction, then that is homophobia. Is that is what is being talked about here? I'm a bit baffled.

Proponents of gender ideology believe a biological man who is attracted to women can be a lesbian.

And therefore lesbians should include him in their dating pool.

Hence lesbian only spaces are shutting down and going underground to avoid 'lesbians with penises'. And groups like 'get the L out' being formed.

See also 'the cotton ceiling'. (Training on how men can 'break through' lesbians' knickers.)

And the ex head of stonewall claiming lesbians who don't accept men as lesbians are akin to 'sexual racists.'

Chickenuggetsticks · 27/06/2024 23:47

Seriously if KJK said something homophobic I’d really like to know what that is. If someone can tell me what it is she actually said, that would be helpful.

Ofocurse cis is offensive to women who have a scientific, materialist definition of sex rather than a bunch of stereotypes as a guide as to whether they are a woman or not. I don’t need to identify as a woman I AM a woman. Cis assumes I sign up to gender ideology which is inherently misogynistic. I get why a man can’t understand that though.

O2AreAShowerofShite · 27/06/2024 23:47

Well God forbid that a woman speaks in a 'tone' that isn't pre-approved by a male. How dare she.

Struggling to see how that leaflet would fall into the definition of a 'malicious communication'. It contains factual information with very little that could be deemed commentary, other than perhaps the use of 'nonsensical' which I guess implies a value judgement (though is also truthful).

TheCultureHusks · 27/06/2024 23:46

Christinapple · 27/06/2024 23:39

There are multiple threads on here discussing cisgender and the prefix cis. Both are listed in dictionaries with definitions, no dictionary describes them as a slur. Look them up.

Tr**n in the context Louise McDonald uses is is not listed in any official dictionary. Its definition can be found in slang/urban dictionaries which describe them as offensive slurs. It is only used in an offensive manner and it not used by LGBT people. Forums such as reddit and Facebook which do not tolerate homophobia or transphobia will issue bans for its use.

I've seen JK Rowling use "TERF" as well as advertise merchandise with "TERF" on it so I would presume that means it's not offensive?

And on mumsnet, you’re asked not to use cis/cisgender as it’s considered a slur by many, many people on here.

But they’re not the people who are currently the history-writing victors, as someone once said 🤣

It’s no use trying to make us be nice, you know. That ship did a Vasa 🤣🤣🤣

TheCultureHusks · 27/06/2024 23:43

Christinapple · 27/06/2024 23:29

There's an affluent little costal town in the West of Scotland with that name, yes I'm aware.

But words can have different meanings can't they?

NO. Colour me shocked.

Troon is pretty run down these days actually.

That’s not in the dictionary definition though.

CassieMaddox · 27/06/2024 23:41

Christinapple · 27/06/2024 23:39

There are multiple threads on here discussing cisgender and the prefix cis. Both are listed in dictionaries with definitions, no dictionary describes them as a slur. Look them up.

Tr**n in the context Louise McDonald uses is is not listed in any official dictionary. Its definition can be found in slang/urban dictionaries which describe them as offensive slurs. It is only used in an offensive manner and it not used by LGBT people. Forums such as reddit and Facebook which do not tolerate homophobia or transphobia will issue bans for its use.

I've seen JK Rowling use "TERF" as well as advertise merchandise with "TERF" on it so I would presume that means it's not offensive?

I thought it was a Kiwi Farms thing. They are a bunch of basement dwelling neck beards so not sure why anyone would be picking up their lingo Confused

Gloomysaurus · 27/06/2024 23:40

I don't understand where the homophobia accusation is coming from. I hadn't heard the word troon before and the definition I've just found said it's a term used about 'trans' people.

Homophobia is prejudice against LGB people ie anyone who is same sex attracted. If a biological male (whether or not he believes he is female) is attracted to another biological man (whether or not he believes he is female) and encounters prejudice because of the same sex attraction, then that is homophobia. Is that is what is being talked about here? I'm a bit baffled.

CassieMaddox · 27/06/2024 23:39

Oh for goodness sake. Is this the latest version of "if you can't define women you can't have womens rights"?

Even a tiny moment of critical thought might help you see that it's entirely possible to recognise a gay bashing (for example) as homophobic, yet also believe TMAM.

Stupid comment.

Christinapple · 27/06/2024 23:39

Datun · 27/06/2024 23:32

See also terf and cis. Slurs to me.

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There are multiple threads on here discussing cisgender and the prefix cis. Both are listed in dictionaries with definitions, no dictionary describes them as a slur. Look them up.

Tr**n in the context Louise McDonald uses is is not listed in any official dictionary. Its definition can be found in slang/urban dictionaries which describe them as offensive slurs. It is only used in an offensive manner and it not used by LGBT people. Forums such as reddit and Facebook which do not tolerate homophobia or transphobia will issue bans for its use.

I've seen JK Rowling use "TERF" as well as advertise merchandise with "TERF" on it so I would presume that means it's not offensive?

RantyMcRanterton · 27/06/2024 23:38

Datun · 27/06/2024 23:35

It's also a little tricky to complain about homophobia when you don't believe in homosexuality.

Mic drop moment!

myotherdogisadonkey · 27/06/2024 23:38

@TheCultureHusks lovely beach Troon. Used to go when I had two dogs. They used to run about mad .

User2460177 · 27/06/2024 23:36

Datun · 27/06/2024 23:35

It's also a little tricky to complain about homophobia when you don't believe in homosexuality.

There is that too.

Datun · 27/06/2024 23:35

It's also a little tricky to complain about homophobia when you don't believe in homosexuality.

User2460177 · 27/06/2024 23:32

Christinapple · 27/06/2024 21:49

She did? oh well that explains it all. It's a hateful, transphobic slur.

"Can a complaint be made to the Electoral Commission?"

Yes I'd certainly be complaining about candidates who use homophobic or transphobic slurs.

You can’t campaign about candidates because you don’t like what they say. Even if you are a man

Datun · 27/06/2024 23:32

Toseland · 27/06/2024 23:28

I saw this woman speak at LWS Norwich - great speech, very feisty 💪
Has the word troon not been reclaimed like queer apparently has then? 😁

See also terf and cis. Slurs to me.

Christinapple · 27/06/2024 23:29

TheCultureHusks · 27/06/2024 23:27

<wags tail excitedly, back legs tremble!>

Troon is quite a nice town. Culzean Castle is worth a visit.

<gloves off>

There's an affluent little costal town in the West of Scotland with that name, yes I'm aware.

But words can have different meanings can't they?

Toseland · 27/06/2024 23:28

I saw this woman speak at LWS Norwich - great speech, very feisty 💪
Has the word troon not been reclaimed like queer apparently has then? 😁

Datun · 27/06/2024 23:27

unwashedanddazed · 27/06/2024 23:26

KJK "I don't care". 😂😍

And he hangs up! 😄

TheCultureHusks · 27/06/2024 23:27

Christinapple · 27/06/2024 22:53

Did you give a police statement? Any recordings you took which could be used as evidence?

<wags tail excitedly, back legs tremble!>

Troon is quite a nice town. Culzean Castle is worth a visit.

<gloves off>

unwashedanddazed · 27/06/2024 23:26

Datun · 27/06/2024 23:17

lol. He told KJK he didn't like her tone.

KJK "I don't care". 😂😍

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