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Sheffield Party Of Women candidate threatened with arrest for leaflets

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ItsFunToBeAVampire · 27/06/2024 18:56

Not much info about this yet, but just saw it on Twitter.

BREAKING. Party of Women
@SheffieldPOW
candidate in Leeds has been threatened with arrest for the leaflets she distributed on a charge of malicious communications.

com/terfasaurus/status/1806370775894491266

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https://x.com/terfasaurus/status/1806370775894491266

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Mochudubh · 28/06/2024 10:27

Sloejelly · 28/06/2024 08:03

It is a very old Pictish word meaning ‘nose’ or ‘cape’.

Ah, similar to the Gaelic ("Q" Celtic) sròn, that makes sense. The name must date back to the Kingdom of Strathclyde when the main language would have been Cumbric ("P" Celtic).

I just looked up Welsh for nose and got "trwn". Language is fascinating, isn't it?

Imnobody4 · 28/06/2024 10:13

The police in a democratic country have tried to interfere with an election. This should end very badly for the police.

Language policing is just part of an authoritarian bent in the left. When are people going to accept we need words that insult.
If you purge one another one will appear, humans are creative like that. Minorities do not have the right to control other people's language. We'll be claiming people shouldn't say 'only women have a cervix' next.

The issue here is the conduct of the police.

Mmmnotsure · 28/06/2024 09:33

It's often useful, when encountering certain usernames, to just glance quickly upwards at, you know, the actual title and subject of the thread, before reading/thinking of answering their posts. In a Bunburyish manner.

MarieDeGournay · 28/06/2024 09:21

Pourquoise · 28/06/2024 05:59

The parallel with this story from yesterday is uncanny, Nigel Farage kicked the party campaigner out for using slurs.

Will Party Of Women leader Kellie-Jay Keen do the same?

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c10l5qd8p60o

I don't think this is a valid comparison -
Didn't the Reform candidate used a racial slur about the Prime Minister and suggest that the army should shoot migrants arriving by boat as target practice?
Has any PoW candidate done anything similar to warrant being kicked out of the party?
But the thread is about legitimate election material being considered as 'malicious communication', I want to find out what's happening about the main topic of the thread.

VicSynix · 28/06/2024 09:09

Back to the election leaflets - I was following someone on Instagram who posted a picture of the leaflet and ranted about how disgusting and offensive it was (they were in Bristol, I think). One of the replies was along the lines of 'that would upset my trans daughter, how can they say such horrible things'. Because biology and facts are upsetting, aren't they?

I couldn't comment because it was on our work Instagram, but we're no longer following them.

dougalfromthemagicroundabout · 28/06/2024 08:54

eurochick · 28/06/2024 07:12

Well they are proving the fifth bullet point on that leaflet is true if nothing else. While looking up definitions someone should do irony.

This. They're proving that their election leaflets are true.

Sloejelly · 28/06/2024 08:50

I am all for a mainstream media inviting Posie on to discuss whether it is appropriate for police officers threatening parliamentary candidates with harm for sharing approved campaign material to be referred to in derogatory terms by that candidate.

CassieMaddox · 28/06/2024 08:50

Maddiescassox · 28/06/2024 08:48

I always thought it was loon

Well you were wrong. Just like your wrong about men can be women.

I don't think men can be women Confused
Let's not derail onto my personal views though.
Nice username BTW. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery and all that 😎

Hepwo · 28/06/2024 08:49

borntobequiet · 28/06/2024 08:01

Very old Latin prefix

Tell me you’re uneducated without telling me etc.

That did amuse me too!

Maddiescassox · 28/06/2024 08:48

CassieMaddox · 28/06/2024 08:31

I always thought it was loon
So slightly ablist as well as anti trans.
I don't find it particularly offensive in itself but anyone who uses it has been hanging out in anti-trans places (like KF) so I'll assume they are anti trans instead of pro woman.

I always thought it was loon

Well you were wrong. Just like your wrong about men can be women.

Sloejelly · 28/06/2024 08:46

Loon: Doric word meaning ‘boy’

CormorantStrikesBack · 28/06/2024 08:43

I’ve never heard the term Troon before and have no idea what it means. I do agree though that people should not be using slurs, especially not candidates. It’s hardly professional. Prior to this it sounds like she was in the right, nothing wrong with the leaflet so it’s a malicious complaint which the police shouldn’t have acted on. So shame that she’s descended into nastiness so quickly. That sort of attitude will turn people off.

borntobequiet · 28/06/2024 08:35

AlisonDonut · 28/06/2024 08:26

Troon:

Portmanteau of the words "Transgender" and "Goon", signifying/accusatory term to denote, mostly male individuals, that appropriate the Transgender identity in order to shield themselves from criticism or past bad/criminal behaviour.

And I bet that never happens.

CassieMaddox · 28/06/2024 08:31

AlisonDonut · 28/06/2024 08:26

Troon:

Portmanteau of the words "Transgender" and "Goon", signifying/accusatory term to denote, mostly male individuals, that appropriate the Transgender identity in order to shield themselves from criticism or past bad/criminal behaviour.

I always thought it was loon
So slightly ablist as well as anti trans.
I don't find it particularly offensive in itself but anyone who uses it has been hanging out in anti-trans places (like KF) so I'll assume they are anti trans instead of pro woman.

CassieMaddox · 28/06/2024 08:29

Topofthemountain · 28/06/2024 08:06

We can't have a situation where people are able to complain to the police because they don't like words on an election leaflet. The police would get nothing else done.

However if the individual concerned (general) is making -phobic remarks then that needs to be dealt with. The use of the word troon, given the context of the situation, was very unwise.

Yeah quite. Her twitter might get her in a bit of trouble too. Very unwise.

AlisonDonut · 28/06/2024 08:26

Troon:

Portmanteau of the words "Transgender" and "Goon", signifying/accusatory term to denote, mostly male individuals, that appropriate the Transgender identity in order to shield themselves from criticism or past bad/criminal behaviour.

AlisonDonut · 28/06/2024 08:25

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Igneococcus · 28/06/2024 08:14

Very old Latin prefix

Isn't everything Latin old?
I've been a biologist for a bit over 30 years now and no, we didn't use cisgender back then or even now, even gender only sneaked in recently and mostly via Americans/Canadians.

Sloejelly · 28/06/2024 08:09

Just to be clear, the courts agreed calling a transwoman a ‘pig in a wig’ though offensive was not an offence.

Topofthemountain · 28/06/2024 08:06

We can't have a situation where people are able to complain to the police because they don't like words on an election leaflet. The police would get nothing else done.

However if the individual concerned (general) is making -phobic remarks then that needs to be dealt with. The use of the word troon, given the context of the situation, was very unwise.

midgetastic · 28/06/2024 08:04

Perhaps we can agree not to say castration or bottom surgery but spell it out in detail

The removal of all male sexual organs

Sloejelly · 28/06/2024 08:03

Theunamedcat · 28/06/2024 06:24

Wtf is a Troon?

It is a very old Pictish word meaning ‘nose’ or ‘cape’.

Maddiescassox · 28/06/2024 08:02

CassieMaddox · 28/06/2024 07:58

There's potentially a third, which is the candidate was using the leaflets as part of harassment. Noone is above the law, so if she was doing that she will get arrested

If the leaflet has been judged acceptable by the electoral commission how could it be used as part of harassment?
Did posy parker just invent Schrödinger's election pamphlet?

borntobequiet · 28/06/2024 08:01

Very old Latin prefix

Tell me you’re uneducated without telling me etc.

midgetastic · 28/06/2024 08:01

How do you harness someone with a leaflet ?

Waft it under their nose in an aggressive manner ?

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