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Vote for local Tory candidate or spoil vote?

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popsicles2342 · 27/06/2024 09:48

Please can you explain how it works. Looks like the only decent candidate in my area is a Tory. Happens that she's a woman who understands sex-based rights. Labour didn't bother replying and Lib-dem spouted nonsense saying he understood the issue about single sex spaces but also that sex is not binary!

If I vote for the Tory candidate and she wins, will that 1. effectively keep her in (sounds good to me) 2. but also help keep Tories in power (not what I want)

Assuming Labour win, then won't it be ok to at least have a few Tory candidates that fight for sex-based rights? Or does it not work like that? I don't really understand how it all works!

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Cycleorrun · 27/06/2024 10:11

popsicles2342 · 27/06/2024 09:48

Please can you explain how it works. Looks like the only decent candidate in my area is a Tory. Happens that she's a woman who understands sex-based rights. Labour didn't bother replying and Lib-dem spouted nonsense saying he understood the issue about single sex spaces but also that sex is not binary!

If I vote for the Tory candidate and she wins, will that 1. effectively keep her in (sounds good to me) 2. but also help keep Tories in power (not what I want)

Assuming Labour win, then won't it be ok to at least have a few Tory candidates that fight for sex-based rights? Or does it not work like that? I don't really understand how it all works!

I'm thinking the same way. Usually vote Labour but Tory candidate is definitely GC and the sort to speak out. Plus the others are all flaky on women's rights.
I can't see any way Labour are going to lose this ( despite Keir Starmer's appalling performance on the single sex spaces question on the TV debate last night - the only segregation by biological sex he agreed to was for Rape Crisis Centres. Then he went into his deflection spiel about vulnerable people. What about vulnerable women? He should have the courage of his convictions and tell us what he really intends to do. I'm confident the shadow education secretary gave away Labour's true position. GRC = allowed in women's 'single sex' spaces.)
So yes I intend to vote Tory in the hope of keeping someone in Parliament who will speak up for women.

cupcaske123 · 27/06/2024 10:08

popsicles2342 · 27/06/2024 10:03

I agree somewhat. But they've also had 3 women prime ministers.

Not sure, but the Labour and Lib dem ones are complete twats.

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May did some good stuff regarding DV. Truss obviously did nothing but tank the economy and scarper. Thatcher? How did Thatcher make lives better for women?

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popsicles2342 · 27/06/2024 10:07

cupcaske123 · 27/06/2024 09:55

In your opinion, do the Tories have a good tack record on women's rights? Some could argue that women have suffered disproportionately due to austerity. The Tories introduced Trans ideology into schools and public services.

What has your local Conservative candidate done regarding women's rights? For example, has she been actively campaigning and spoken out on women's rights? How has she changed women's lives for the better? What has she done to effect change?

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So you're saying unless the Tory candidate is really worth it, don't risk it and spoil?

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Maddy70 · 27/06/2024 10:03

The Tories do not have women issues at the forefront.... in your case i would spoil

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popsicles2342 · 27/06/2024 10:03

cupcaske123 · 27/06/2024 09:55

In your opinion, do the Tories have a good tack record on women's rights? Some could argue that women have suffered disproportionately due to austerity. The Tories introduced Trans ideology into schools and public services.

What has your local Conservative candidate done regarding women's rights? For example, has she been actively campaigning and spoken out on women's rights? How has she changed women's lives for the better? What has she done to effect change?

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I agree somewhat. But they've also had 3 women prime ministers.

Not sure, but the Labour and Lib dem ones are complete twats.

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cupcaske123 · 27/06/2024 09:55

popsicles2342 · 27/06/2024 09:48

Please can you explain how it works. Looks like the only decent candidate in my area is a Tory. Happens that she's a woman who understands sex-based rights. Labour didn't bother replying and Lib-dem spouted nonsense saying he understood the issue about single sex spaces but also that sex is not binary!

If I vote for the Tory candidate and she wins, will that 1. effectively keep her in (sounds good to me) 2. but also help keep Tories in power (not what I want)

Assuming Labour win, then won't it be ok to at least have a few Tory candidates that fight for sex-based rights? Or does it not work like that? I don't really understand how it all works!

In your opinion, do the Tories have a good tack record on women's rights? Some could argue that women have suffered disproportionately due to austerity. The Tories introduced Trans ideology into schools and public services.

What has your local Conservative candidate done regarding women's rights? For example, has she been actively campaigning and spoken out on women's rights? How has she changed women's lives for the better? What has she done to effect change?

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popsicles2342 · 27/06/2024 09:53

This is my thinking. I'm resigned to Labour winning - good in order to boot out the Tories - but I don't want them to win too much, due to their problem with women (or disdain should I say)

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ScribblingPixie · 27/06/2024 09:51

My opinion based on all the polls is that the Conservatives haven't got a hope in hell of staying in power. A Labour government is coming in.
So in your shoes I'd vote for who you want as your constituency MP, the person who you feel would help you if you had a problem and would best represent your interests in parliament.