Vote for local Tory candidate or spoil vote?

I understand where you're coming from op. My Tory candidate says TWAW as far as I know which rules her out anyway. I'm thinking of voting LD with the hope they won't get a significant number of seats as I don't trust them. What a ridiculous situation. I never thought it would be hard to find a candidate who recognised women as female. 😥

How so?

@scrollingleaves, Penny Mordaunt is not the only TRA in the Tory Party. They're riddled with them. Some of us remember which government brought this shitshow on our heads.

https://amp.theguardian.com/society/2017/oct/18/theresa-may-plans-to-let-people-change-gender-without-medical-checks

May was a bloody liability but did some good work on DV.

@cupcaske123 May was extremely dangerous on gender issues and even elevated Ruth Hunt, the former head of Stonewall and under whom that organisation began to focus almost exclusively on trans, to the House of Lords in her leaving honours.

By their many TRAs

Do you mean Penny Mordaunt? Who else were you thinking of as a TRA PM?

NB You do know it was Labour who introduced the GRA? And the Equality Act with its confusions?

Boris who broke the TWAW taboo saying biology matters. Con who paused the Ban Conversion Therapy Act; commissioned the Cass Report; considered but stopped Self -ID; stopped Scotland’s self -ID; began to look into clarifying the Equality Act; worked on drafting guidance for schools to protect t children from being taught they may be in the wrong body/ gender identity.

How anyone who gives a shit about anyone in this country could consider voting tory is beyond me. I'm GC but it's one issue , the destruction of the public sector and the environment and workers protection are just a few issues that are way more important. The trans craze will fizzle out. Just suck it up and vote for anyone who will sink those tory cunts once and for all.

See thread on spoiling ballots. They do get noticed and recorded.

Round here it is likely to be between the LibDems and Labour. The Labour Candidate is a bit of a ranter. LibDem and Tory are new to the area. Both good at dealing with facts and both have good history with local campaigns.
Voting Tory is now a protest vote. That will be me.

There is zero chance of Sunak remaining. The D-Day debacle was the final nail in the coffin and he'd be out only for the fact they couldn't replace him before the GE.

If the result is much better than expected for the Tories then Sunak might be left in place. If not there's a good chance of Kemi Badenoch becoming leader.
Nothing is certain, but if Starmer gets in with a huge majority I'm as sure as I can be that women's rights are going to be trampled all over. No one gets rid of a winning leader in the short term.

None?
You are wrong.

There's currently little to no GC in the Commons. Why do you think that will change?

If you have a good local MP, I would be inclined to vote for them personally, whatever their party. I also fear a huge labour majority and would like there to be plenty of GC representation in the HofC. That's a good enough reason in itself to vote tory if your local candidate shares your views. I wish we had more PFW and SDP candidates as this would be another way to make your voice heard.

From what you say, you like her and it is just possible that she could win
in your area. If she did win, she would represent your area in Parliament even if Labour is in power ( which seems certain).

Conversely

My area has only ever been labour, there is no chance of Conservatives winning , but even though the Conservatives have been in power all these years, I have had a Labour MP.

I would do as you're planning to do, OP.

Disclaimer - I would probably say I am centre-right and have mostly previously voted Tory.

However, I am as disillusioned as most of the country is with the current situation. To be fair, I think world events have been particularly challenging, and would have been for any party, but the blatant lies, incompetency and corruption have been inexcusable.

I don't know how much things will improve under Labour and I am worried about a huge Labour majority, so in my view, as many sensible Opposition MPs there are, the better.

I dislike Starmer immensely - he comes across as a flaky, arrogant, misogynist.

And I disagree that his stance on gender and women's rights is a single issue - surely his inability to clearly understand and apply critical thinking to the issue (or his deliberate obscuring of it) is reflective of his overall ability, integrity and intelligence?

I am in Rosie Duffield's constituency, but actually still unsure who to vote for. She will likely win and obviously I do want her in Government... and I know the individual votes don't count, but it feels like voting for Labour is giving KS my support.

I won't vote Tory as the candidate is very inexperienced and actually TWAW.

I may still vote for Rosie or I am considering the Social Democratic candidate, though they don't seem particularly engaged and I don't agree with their whole manifesto.

I think there are good candidates in all (or most!) parties across the board and think it's a shame that the current system doesn't allow for more cross-Party working. It's a shame we can't pick n mix 😅

Agreed. And for these reasons I absolutely am voting Tory in this GE.

I grew up working class in a Northern industrial town, my parents and son are disabled, I work for the NHS , I am a pretty lefty liberal type- my natural political home should be Labour. Unfortunately they have made their disdain for women absolutely clear so they aren’t getting my vote.

You still have a week, popsicles2342. Although I do understand the personal, internal tussle over this. It's really hard.

We're the same, kind of, except our Reform candidate is very outspoken on sex-based rights, as well as issues like the NHS (he works in finance in our local hospital) and our illegal migrant problem in our town (since several hotels were taken over by Government bookings with the illegal male migrants, we've seen a surge in stabbings, rapes, sexual assaults, muggings, robbery....our Tory candidate is very much "hands are tied" but Reform seem to actually care. Our Labour and Green candidates have just been banging on about ending the war in Gaza, or the envirnment, but nothing at all mentioned about women's rights, the NHS, and the sorry state of our policing/illegal migrant difficulties.

People were very blasé about Brexit as I recall. Look what happened there.

I have wrestled with the issue of wether to vote tactically or vote with my heart and have finally decided my heart wins. For your information the Conservatives have about as much chance of remaining in power as there is of winning the lottery so I wouldn’t let that worry you.

I agree with the others, Labour will probably get in. So if you have a candidate with a good track record of helping with local issues and seem like the best of all then vote for them whatever political party they are.

If you don't have a decent one, or they are new, then either spoil your ballot stating why, or vote conservative so there is a decent opposition party who can water down some of Labour's worse, and most harmful, policies. I'm in this category and will have to either spoil or conservative as they are all crap candidates. Seriously awful.

Labour are predicted a heavy majority. I think it’s fine to vote Tory to have them in opposition - nobody wants reform in opposition.