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Non binary children

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ArabellaScott · 27/06/2024 09:34

I realised I haven't actually heard of such a thing as a non binary child before. I'm talking specifically about pre pubertal children.

How does a 'non binary' child present? What does it involve?

How is a 'non binary' child different from a 'trans' child?

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MrsSkylerWhite · 27/06/2024 13:03

Mairzydotes · Today 12:33
There are children who are raised as gender neutral .

No. Our 29 year old daughter’s friend was brought up by a very traditional farming family with very specific roles expected of the children, which they all fell into until leaving home. At the same age, 29, she has come out as non-binary and is living with a non-binary partner.

beckybarefoot · 27/06/2024 13:00

what will come next? non-binary dogs and cats? non-binary children are a product of their parents ideas! its like vegans and vegetarians... childen brough up to be this, are not given a choice, they are forced into it and then know no better.

its time we allowed our children to be just that.. no lables, nothing forced on them, just let them be what they want to be

Dumbo12 · 27/06/2024 12:56

When did it become necessary to deny your child's sex, to avoid sexist stereotyping? My paternal grandparents were born during the reign of Queen Victoria. They raised two children, one girl, one boy, both were encouraged to be good human beings and to follow their interests. My father was an engineer to his soul, he was the little boy who dismantled his toys to see how they worked, he could also embroider, crochet and knit. His sister was equally non "gender" conforming and both lived long, happy family lives. Neither were "none binary"

fedupandstuck · 27/06/2024 12:39

It's not possible to raise a child as "gender neutral". Societal influence is all around from pre-birth onwards, from when the sex of the child is known onwards. Even parents who attempt to be "gender neutral", or avoid sex-based stereotyping, cannot fully shake off their own conditioning.

Many parents, often feminists ones, will do their very best to reject sex-based stereotypes without denying the reality of the child's sex, nor the sexist society we all live in. But it's not as trendy or modern to just get on with rejecting sexism, rather than label it and pronounce publicly about it.

Mairzydotes · 27/06/2024 12:33

There are children who are raised as gender neutral . That means they don't have artificial characteristics attributed to them due to stereotypes of either gender. They are either male or female but it isn't people's business which.

Non - binary is more like a thought process above all else.

Tbh I can't imagine small children referring to themselves as either . They are just themselves.

NotBadConsidering · 27/06/2024 12:16

One inference to be made is that parents of children that age claiming to be non-binary must themselves buy into sex stereotypes. If they didn’t they’d just help educate their child that it’s normal to have an aversion to sex stereotypes. But they must think that their child needs an explanation to be so averse to sex stereotypes, and that explanation must be non- binary.

Otherwise why don’t they just tell their child they’re just like millions of other children around the world? Or is it because they put stock and value into a non-binary label?🤔

ArabellaScott · 27/06/2024 12:06

My thoughts were prompted by David Tennant's vituperative attack on Kemi Badenoch for her work on women's rights, based on the fact he has a 'non binary' child, who is as I understand it between 9 and 11.

It seems to me to be pathologising a perfectly normal aversion to sex stereotypes.

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NotBadConsidering · 27/06/2024 11:39

Yes, it’s strange. The argument against ROGD is that it’s likely the girl was actually trans identifying but didn’t have the words/confidence/understanding of it at a young age. So does that apply to non-binary? Has a non-binary teenager always been non- binary, even at primary school age, but didn’t have the words/confidence/understanding of it to declare it?

Absolutelyfractious · 27/06/2024 11:35

To me, the impetus for a child to be called 'non binary' is completely from the parent and there are a few I believe who have raised children as 'non binary', I saw a mum doing this on a TV show a few years ago.

The theory is that the child doesn't get bogged down or limited by gender expectations - which is a good thing - but doing it in a way that tells them they are neither sex is barking mad of course and an experiment you are running on your child.

Not to mention it actually reinforces stereotypes.