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Absolutelyfractious · 28/06/2024 11:46

ArabellaScott · 28/06/2024 09:36

It's wishful thinking, really. He is trying to diminish the psychic threat by saying it's a 'tiny' bunch, and 'little fuckers' is an attempt to dismiss, too.

Which tallies perfectly with wishing Kemi B would 'not exist' and would 'shut up'.

It's a bit sad watching a grown man doing the equivalent of sticking his fingers in his ears and having a wee tantrum.

At some point he's going to have to face his conscience.

I honestly am coming to the conclusion that lefty men can be way nastier than conservative men.

Ok that's a sweeping generalisation, but it does seem the tantrums are extraordinarily vile.

Littlewhingingfucker · 28/06/2024 11:41

ArabellaScott · 28/06/2024 11:37

Excellent username!

Why thank you (Twirls gracefully)
I saw the comment on Rowling's twitter feed and it was an instant "I'm having that!"
I'm surprised I got there first with all the speedy vipers round here tbh.

AmaryllisNightAndDay · 28/06/2024 11:40

UtilitarianNameChange · 28/06/2024 09:05

We weren’t watching the same thing then!

I was talking about a TV series, so maybe it’s DT’s face on camera that’s creepy AF?

Yes, I was talking about his role in the stage play "Good" not TV. So, different things.

Catsmere · 28/06/2024 11:37

"Harming no one" always ends up meaning "harming no adult men", because it's very clear that they are the only actual humans. Womenthings, especially the disobedient ones, and children, even male ones, don't count.

ArabellaScott · 28/06/2024 11:37

Littlewhingingfucker · 28/06/2024 11:36

Well this little fucker ain't going anywhere anytime soon Davey boy. I assume boy is the best description for someone with your selfish, ignorant immature behaviour.

Excellent username!

Littlewhingingfucker · 28/06/2024 11:36

Well this little fucker ain't going anywhere anytime soon Davey boy. I assume boy is the best description for someone with your selfish, ignorant immature behaviour.

ScrollingLeaves · 28/06/2024 10:58

risefromyourgrave · 28/06/2024 08:01

Link to an interview that he did after telling Kemi to shut up.

https://twitter.com/Terf_Rocks/status/1806110591343329539

For those who aren’t on X/Twitter there is a transcript:

Thank you.

The irony of the ‘just be yourself, just be who you are’!

Exactly. There is nothing wrong with [you] as you were born.

To trans children and then tell them they are being themselves is a contradiction in terms.

jacksonlambsregulardisorder · 28/06/2024 10:57

TempestTost · 28/06/2024 10:21

I think this is probably the answer.

He's completely unaware of any of the things we all are here. He probably really believes still that this is all scientific, all medical best practice according to robust standards, etc. That nearly everyone agrees.

And because of this, the only reason some people might disagree is that they are unredeemed bigots.

He's completely unaware that there is no foundation to this ideology. He thinks what the Good People tell him is right, just like a good little Calvinist.

This is an interesting feature of this debate. He's a bit Dr Alice Roberts who also rejected the firmly held religion of her family but can't seem to shake off the religiosity of thought processes and belief systems.

RedToothBrush · 28/06/2024 10:57

So who has watched the Suranne Jones Witchcraft Documentary?

I suspect Dave won't be. He should have watched it before saying 'shut up though'. Episode 2 is particularly enlightening.

Recommend.

ScrollingLeaves · 28/06/2024 10:50

IwantToRetire · 28/06/2024 00:42

this was typical - it wasn't just people who disagreed, but people who had sensible points or challenged the accuracy of the articles, basic things like that. All branded sexism and deleted.

Eventually they ran a special article asking for BTL comments on how to deal with disagreeing comments on feminism articles To which the reply was, stop moderating out reasonable disagreement as bigoted. They deleted those and stopped opening feminist articles for comment.

All this has something to do with where the Guardian is today.

I think I have a memory of that, but was blocked from posting.

I know now it seems silly, but I was genuinely taken aback. After all this was the Guardian, supposedly full of advanced thinkers, that had let Mary Stott start what was effectively the first online meet up for frustrated women. Had it been the DM or the Telegraph it wouldn't have been a great shock.

So in a way it was a real learning curve about just how deeply entrenched male attitudes towards women are. Clearly 70s Women's Liberation had had no impact on them whatsoever.

And is it any wonder that based on their absolute misogyny and sexism they were so open to the next stage of the backlash against women. TRAs.

Echoed of course by the current state of the Labour Party and women get more acknowledgement from the Tories.

Clearly 70s Women's Liberation had had no impact on them whatsoever.

Except for more sex and licence to abuse women and appear cool, as in sex work is work.

TempestTost · 28/06/2024 10:21

Hepwo · 28/06/2024 09:26

He boasted about not being on social media in that speech so he hasn't a clue who he's talking about at all.

We're invisible women to him. He is quite like that foul ex Brighton MP isn't he? Nasty little wasp.

I think this is probably the answer.

He's completely unaware of any of the things we all are here. He probably really believes still that this is all scientific, all medical best practice according to robust standards, etc. That nearly everyone agrees.

And because of this, the only reason some people might disagree is that they are unredeemed bigots.

He's completely unaware that there is no foundation to this ideology. He thinks what the Good People tell him is right, just like a good little Calvinist.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 28/06/2024 10:16

He knows how abusive TRAs are which is why he's appealing to them with the same type of rhetoric.

TempestTost · 28/06/2024 10:15

UtopiaPlanitia · 28/06/2024 02:24

Discussion is always welcome Tempest 👍

I always thought that Wilde was saying that the middle class, well-meaning types who go into working with 'the poor' should properly want to or aim to create a state that makes poverty impossible; however, in reality, he believed that what they end up doing simply tinkers around the edges of the problems rather than addressing the root causes of poverty and disadvantage because in order to properly address the root causes the middle classes would have to give up a lot of their own financial and social security and way of life.

And possibly they alienate the people they're wanting to help (or to have vote for them) because they are unable to understand why the working classes largely refuse to vote for socialism. Because they don't understand that working class people are often small 'c' conservative (they definitely were and still are where I'm from) and don't always want the state to be involved in their lives more than it has to be; they often have a culture of pride and independence and don't want handouts that bring interference from government.

It's late here so I hope what I typed made sense 😬

Yes, I agree with this. I guess I am not so sure though where Wild really stood in terms of Utopian idealism over concrete help. But that's not really the point here, we are substantially in agreement imo.

ArabellaScott · 28/06/2024 10:12

'Not hurting anyone' gets a bit muddled when we are looking at martyrdom and self harm.

WickedSerious · 28/06/2024 10:11

I suspect wee Dave's idea of what constitutes 'living their lives in peace' is wildly different from that of people who actually know what they're talking about when it comes to this issue.

CorruptedCauldron · 28/06/2024 09:59

I can’t help thinking that if he was given a superpower to literally genocide wrongthinkers, to click his fingers a certain way and make them all drop dead suddenly of natural causes - heart attacks etc, he would do it. As it’s such a tiny number, nobody would notice. 🙄

It really offends me that he thinks GC feminists don’t want people to be themselves and live their lives in peace. Of course we do. I’m happy for people to do whatever they want as long as they’re not harming anyone, just as David was preaching at the awards ceremony - we’re on the same page there, sunshine. Look more closely at that line though “as long as they’re not hurting anyone”. Did you see the picture of ‘rapist gender’ Isla in the bulging pink leggings, Doctor? Do you think that him living his best life in a women’s prison was not hurting anybody? Do you think that nobody’s hurting children if they put them on puberty blockers and opposite-sex hormones, damaging their healthy bodies? Do you think a 6ft 4 transwoman winning all the medals in women’s sport is not hurting anyone?

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 28/06/2024 09:46

ArabellaScott · 28/06/2024 09:36

It's wishful thinking, really. He is trying to diminish the psychic threat by saying it's a 'tiny' bunch, and 'little fuckers' is an attempt to dismiss, too.

Which tallies perfectly with wishing Kemi B would 'not exist' and would 'shut up'.

It's a bit sad watching a grown man doing the equivalent of sticking his fingers in his ears and having a wee tantrum.

At some point he's going to have to face his conscience.

he must have some part of his conscience tapping him on the shoulder

I know that he and his wife are rich, so as pointed out by a PP, it’s possible they’re still giving the poor kid puberty blockers

so worst case they’re damaging his body and messing with his head

best case they’re just putting him in a position where he has to continue down this stupid path to save his parents face

GiveMeSpanakopita · 28/06/2024 09:39

ActivePeony · 28/06/2024 09:12

Interesting that this has been clipped in other links so his full twattishness is not shown.

Well of course it would, he just wished death on Kemi, last thing his supporters need is to have to revealed that he also wishes death on a whole generation lol

My question is will there be anyone left alive once DT has managed to usher all the wrong thinkers out of existence?

Kucinghitam · 28/06/2024 09:38

UpThePankhurst · 28/06/2024 09:33

Women's rights, equalities and needs are only something wanted by 'little whinging fuckers'.

Yes.

anyone left in this country who thinks those tied up in this movement and its politics aren't frothing, swivel eyed misogynists?

He said the quiet part out loud.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 28/06/2024 09:37

Spot on @ArabellaScott it's why these people are so unhinged. They're angry about having to deal with it.

ArabellaScott · 28/06/2024 09:36

It's wishful thinking, really. He is trying to diminish the psychic threat by saying it's a 'tiny' bunch, and 'little fuckers' is an attempt to dismiss, too.

Which tallies perfectly with wishing Kemi B would 'not exist' and would 'shut up'.

It's a bit sad watching a grown man doing the equivalent of sticking his fingers in his ears and having a wee tantrum.

At some point he's going to have to face his conscience.

UpThePankhurst · 28/06/2024 09:33

Women's rights, equalities and needs are only something wanted by 'little whinging fuckers'.

Yes.

anyone left in this country who thinks those tied up in this movement and its politics aren't frothing, swivel eyed misogynists?

ArabellaScott · 28/06/2024 09:31

risefromyourgrave · 28/06/2024 08:01

Link to an interview that he did after telling Kemi to shut up.

https://twitter.com/Terf_Rocks/status/1806110591343329539

For those who aren’t on X/Twitter there is a transcript:

A 'tiny bunch of little whinging fuckers', David?

Good god.

woman2womanmeetswomanparrish · 28/06/2024 09:26

Theeyeballsinthesky · 28/06/2024 08:06

Fuck me he really is a massive cunt isn’t he

It’s quite disturbing how he’s so 1000 % on board with his child’s “trans” status. God forbid said child ever decided he was just like all the other children after all.

Surely at this stage social services should be involved, this is child abuse plain and simple.

Hepwo · 28/06/2024 09:26

He boasted about not being on social media in that speech so he hasn't a clue who he's talking about at all.

We're invisible women to him. He is quite like that foul ex Brighton MP isn't he? Nasty little wasp.

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