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Kai125 · 30/06/2024 19:59

SisterWendyBuckett · 29/06/2024 10:34

I’m sickened by this ignorant luvvie and others like him.

In 2017 my 20 year old daughter very suddenly announced she was non-binary. This was after a turbulent and traumatic episode in her life. She had recently come out as a lesbian but the non binary identity quickly took over.

We did our best to accept this sudden change, go along with her wishes and not question her choices.

Within 3 months she decided she was in fact trans - had always been a male but just ‘never had the words to explain this’ - and was sent by our GP to the adult gender identity clinic.

Her mental health deteriorated and her personality seemed to change overnight.

By the following year, having recently started on testosterone, she cut herself off from us. We were labelled transphobic bigots, refusing to accept her true identity, because we had tried to discuss the dangers of rushing too quickly into permanent medical changes. She accused her brother of wanting her to have conversion therapy because he was so worried about her state of mind that he dared to suggest she might try some counselling.

We haven’t seen her in 6 long years and have to accept we may never see or hear from her again. We found out several years ago that she has had a double mastectomy. The shock is still there…it’s not something you can get used to.

Estranging from parents is a feature, not a bug, for young people who pledge their allegiance to this movement. For parents like us this is a vicious ideology, dressed up as a sparkly, ‘be kind’, human rights movement, that can seize hold of vulnerable young people’s minds and convince them that up is down, that their body is the seat of all their ills, and that the way to become your true self is to rid yourself of your health and fertility.

David Tennant has absolutely no idea. He’s a heterosexual married man able to father multiple children, adorned in glitter and pink nail varnish, whose absence of thinking and desire to paint himself as ‘progressive’, blinds him to the multiple harms and rights conflicts that gender ideology creates and enacts.

He stands there clutching his ally’s award, eyes bulging and frothing with self-righteous anger, and pronounces that it would be a better world if women like Kemi Badenoch shut up and disappear. He wants women, who believe in sex based rights, protecting women’s single sex spaces and safeguarding children and young people, to go away.

I have never been a Tory voter, but if Kemi was my candidate, would I vote for her? 1000 X yes because in my constituency the incumbent Labour MP is a man who actively supports a male who parades his desire to ‘breastfeed’ in public. It’s beyond belief that an MP could stand up for and enable one of the most disturbing paraphilias around and this not be widely reported on.

He, David Tennant and so many others, continue to demonstrate just how far removed the left wing elite have become from material reality and necessary societal boundaries and safeguards.

So yes, David Tennant, I too have skin in the game and us “little whinging f*ers” refuse to go away because there’s far too much at stake to stay silent.

I am so sorry how awful for you and your family. The pain must be horrendous.

I have had similar recently with a friend's son which ended tragically.

But I cannot tell you how I feel about "celebrities" mouthing off about things they do not understand or want to understand. As every time I post how I feel about them (DT & EB) it gets deleted.

RedToothBrush · 30/06/2024 15:00

lcakethereforeIam · 29/06/2024 18:58

I think I took against his Doctor for two rather petty reasons

  1. Billie Piper had that 'Because we want to' (should be a tra anthem). I've known people with nuisance neighbours, lack of consideration and peak fuckwittery. I couldn't get past that.
  1. Everyone, and I mean everyone fancying the skinny weasel. I just couldn't believe it. Travelling in time, not a problem. Bigger on the inside, I'm fine with that. Two hearts, don't care. David Tennant fanciable! Hard nope!

I'm currently watching Dr Who from 2005 with DS. What's striking about Eccleston and Tennant is they are so cold at times. There's not the same being nice all the time in more recent series. There isn't the same coldness.

But one of the themes is you can't just kill 'for the greater good'. Why? Because that turns you into a monster you are trying to fight. There's lots of parallels between defeating the daleks (the Nazis) and being human or timelord (being liberal).

The fact that this is an overriding story arc is fascinating.

AmaryllisNightAndDay · 30/06/2024 12:25

And as for DT - she said he should apologise to her.

AmaryllisNightAndDay · 30/06/2024 12:22

mrshoho · 30/06/2024 09:59

Kemi about to be interviewed on GB News. Will be interesting if she speaks about DT.

It started off with David Tennant!

Later on, here she is explaining why the Conservative party want to clarify that sex in the Equality Act means biological sex: "Nobody asks you for a piece of paper or a certificate when you're going to the toilet. We all use sight to know who should be there and who shouldn't be there. What we're trying to prevent is people thinking that some men are allowed to be there if they say they are trans when they are not. So the paperwork is long after things have gone wrong and then you go to court, but it's so that people who own those businesses where they don't know what to do, know that the law is on their side if they are right. At the moment they don't."

mrshoho · 30/06/2024 09:59

Kemi about to be interviewed on GB News. Will be interesting if she speaks about DT.

DramaLlamaBangBang · 30/06/2024 09:27

eatfigs · 30/06/2024 04:28

Yeah he's annoying, has very little acting range. Tennant has spent his whole career basically just replaying his character from Takin' Over The Asylum in every other role.

Ha ha I was watching Good Omen's 2 and commented that I thought Tennant could either act or do accents, so when he puts on that estuary English he plays the 10th Doctor but can only play that one part.

eatfigs · 30/06/2024 04:28

UtopiaPlanitia · 29/06/2024 18:51

I missed so much scifi and comedy because BBC 2 used to just randomly move things round in the schedule and my family didn’t have a video recorder - kids today don’t know how lucky they are with their Netflixes and IPlayers 😂

I didn’t see the end of Sliders either, probably because of BBC scheduling, but I do remember Jerry O’Connell’s brother was hired to take over from him when he left.

Also, in a slight relevance to this thread, I stopped watching nuDoctor Who because I found David Tennant much too irritatingly hyper. I was used to more sedate and erudite Doctors like Pertwee, Baker and Davidson 🧐

Yeah he's annoying, has very little acting range. Tennant has spent his whole career basically just replaying his character from Takin' Over The Asylum in every other role.

dunBle · 30/06/2024 03:02

UtopiaPlanitia · 29/06/2024 18:51

I missed so much scifi and comedy because BBC 2 used to just randomly move things round in the schedule and my family didn’t have a video recorder - kids today don’t know how lucky they are with their Netflixes and IPlayers 😂

I didn’t see the end of Sliders either, probably because of BBC scheduling, but I do remember Jerry O’Connell’s brother was hired to take over from him when he left.

Also, in a slight relevance to this thread, I stopped watching nuDoctor Who because I found David Tennant much too irritatingly hyper. I was used to more sedate and erudite Doctors like Pertwee, Baker and Davidson 🧐

Thing was even if you had a video that didn't always save you. I've lost count of the number of shows I missed the end of because the snooker/wimbledon overran and everything had got pushed back so the recording cut off partway through.

Catsmere · 29/06/2024 22:05

CheeseSandwichRiskAssessment · 29/06/2024 15:50

It was Hoover, at least in the urban legend

I thought the legend referred to J Edgar Hoover, not President Herbert Hoover?

WickedSerious · 29/06/2024 21:08

Greaterorlesser · 29/06/2024 20:59

It’s so worth it. Especially watching the reactions of her Labour colleagues to the cringe fest

I can't deny I'm tempted.

Greaterorlesser · 29/06/2024 20:59

WickedSerious · 29/06/2024 19:56

I don't know if I want to see it.

I might need more gin.

It’s so worth it. Especially watching the reactions of her Labour colleagues to the cringe fest

NeilsExorcistMoonshine · 29/06/2024 20:26

I think I'd like to see both Sunak and Starmer do a daily mail who wore it better full page miniskirt competition to decide the election.
I know who I'd vote for.

David Tennant - Wishes Kemi B would ‘shut up’
David Tennant - Wishes Kemi B would ‘shut up’
Ereshkigalangcleg · 29/06/2024 20:24

Dawn can be comedy gold. Reciting the lyrics to ‘Something inside so Strong’. Time after time was remarkably cringe (Google it if you have never seen it)

Ive never actually seen it but it's an amusing memory from a Guardian article documenting the run up to the 2019 election. She also did the same for the "We're Still Here" trans conference in 2018, as reported by a brave undercover Mumsnetter, but it was the Greatest Showman that time.

Abhannmor · 29/06/2024 20:20

Yes but J Edgar Hoover of the FBI , not President Herbert Hoover. ( I think)

LunaNorth · 29/06/2024 20:09

I have Keir(a) down as a Viyella kinda guy.

WickedSerious · 29/06/2024 19:56

Greaterorlesser · 29/06/2024 13:12

Dawn can be comedy gold. Reciting the lyrics to ‘Something inside so Strong’. Time after time was remarkably cringe (Google it if you have never seen it)

I don't know if I want to see it.

I might need more gin.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 29/06/2024 19:14

Hyperions · 25/06/2024 13:31

I used to like that misogynist, till he opened his mouth.

I liked him a lot better when I had only heard him speak words written by a scriptwriter.

lcakethereforeIam · 29/06/2024 18:58

I think I took against his Doctor for two rather petty reasons

  1. Billie Piper had that 'Because we want to' (should be a tra anthem). I've known people with nuisance neighbours, lack of consideration and peak fuckwittery. I couldn't get past that.
  1. Everyone, and I mean everyone fancying the skinny weasel. I just couldn't believe it. Travelling in time, not a problem. Bigger on the inside, I'm fine with that. Two hearts, don't care. David Tennant fanciable! Hard nope!
UtopiaPlanitia · 29/06/2024 18:51

I missed so much scifi and comedy because BBC 2 used to just randomly move things round in the schedule and my family didn’t have a video recorder - kids today don’t know how lucky they are with their Netflixes and IPlayers 😂

I didn’t see the end of Sliders either, probably because of BBC scheduling, but I do remember Jerry O’Connell’s brother was hired to take over from him when he left.

Also, in a slight relevance to this thread, I stopped watching nuDoctor Who because I found David Tennant much too irritatingly hyper. I was used to more sedate and erudite Doctors like Pertwee, Baker and Davidson 🧐

lcakethereforeIam · 29/06/2024 18:10

I stopped watching it. It got a bit repetitive, they'd lose the Slidey widget and have to get it back before they ran out of time. Did they ever get home?

I think it kept disappearing from the schedule too.

UtopiaPlanitia · 29/06/2024 17:37

I’d forgotten about that episode of Sliders - that takes me back to the days when scifi was much less woke than it is nowadays 😏😬

lcakethereforeIam · 29/06/2024 16:04

I think there was an American TV show (Sliders?) Our heroes slid to a parallel world and the police were all wearing skirts because of Hoover's proclivities.

It had the formerly chubby kid from Stand By Me in it.

Isn't weird the things you remember? I wonder if that episode is banned in reruns.

CheeseSandwichRiskAssessment · 29/06/2024 15:50

CaveMum · 29/06/2024 14:47

Talk of KS and his possible clothing preferences reminds me of one of my favourite CJ Cregg quotes on The West Wing:

”One in forty American men wear women’s clothing and we’ve had well over forty Presidents. I’m just saying, one of these guys was dancing around the Oval Office in a prom dress. Now let’s get to the bottom of that.”

It was Hoover, at least in the urban legend

Datun · 29/06/2024 15:09

UtopiaPlanitia · 29/06/2024 14:35

If you’re still interested here’s an archive link to the Burchill article in The Spectator Datun

https://archive.is/PYH7q

Thank you!

UpThePankhurst · 29/06/2024 15:02

CaveMum · 29/06/2024 14:47

Talk of KS and his possible clothing preferences reminds me of one of my favourite CJ Cregg quotes on The West Wing:

”One in forty American men wear women’s clothing and we’ve had well over forty Presidents. I’m just saying, one of these guys was dancing around the Oval Office in a prom dress. Now let’s get to the bottom of that.”

I'm fairly sure Izzard used to do a skit about an American president and the difference between them and himself as (using his words of the time) a different type of transvestite.

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