David Tennant - Wishes Kemi B would ‘shut up’

Someone may already have linked to it, but I thought the Telegraph podcast coverage was great.

No one has said that DT and his family shouldn't exist. Quite a few people have expressed concern for the wellbeing of one of the Tennant children.

The "both sides are as bad" argument doesn't apply here.

It has been touched on but I feel it deserves further comment.

By crediting her "education" of him for his adoption of woke views, he can later blame her if when it all backfires.

There's a reason why the First Rule is at the top of the list: it's the most commonly-observed one.

Especially despicable considering there are two MPs who no longer exist because certain nutjobs didn't agree with them

Heat and light, ffs!

You are fabulous!

Here ya go https://archive.ph/GYrCX

Don't suppose anyone has a share token for this article?

Hmm - I meant to link this https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/dawn-butler-under-fire-for-saying-kemi-badenoch-shouldnt-exist-x39l0trsq

How many women have heard that “shut up!”command followed by a blow, when expressing things men don’t want to hear?
It is very wrong of DT to say that alongside statements of ceasing to exist that also convey a thread. Many TRAs use that claim about ‘existence’ as if not following their ideology is what they used to call ‘literal violence’.
They see our refusal to suspend belief as a personal attack and I wonder how long their distorted life vision is going to last? Why do I have to get along with the very insane manners this late misogynistic colonisation is taken?

Part of it I think is childish thinking and rhetoric along the lines of 'I can do whatever I want, you can't stop me, so there'.

The other part seems to be driven by a strange mix of insecurity and vanity that means you need everyone to see you as you see yourself and reflect that back to you in the precise manner of your choosing.

Life isn't like the though. Other people see us through their eyes not ours and we can't do anything about that.

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There is a difference, though, between critiquing someone views and making personal attacks based on the fact you don't agree with those views. Kemi seems to get a lot of the latter.“”

As do DT and his family on this thread. The outrage about personal attacks seems to work just one way on this board.

The political interest class 'women', defined by body type and gestational potential, has apparently ceased to exist. So now we know.

I don’t think he wishes her dead (necessarily), and certainly didn’t mean it as a threat, BUT telling women to shut up has been central to this campaign.

’No Debate’. Women are ‘transphobic’ for wanting to discuss or negotiate the areas where biological sex does matter and women only spaces do matter.

I don’t agree with KB’s politics and I hate her party. But she is doing the job she has taken on, defending women - only spaces.

And whether I agree with her or not, telling her to ‘shut up’ is an assault on democracy. People have a right to do their job, state their opinion, express their view, and let voters know what they are voting for.

Telling people to shut up, cancel culture, no platform, no debate… be careful what you wish for Mr Actor Man because the arts are not the arts without free expression.

I read it that deep down the tras, the people caught up in this lunacy know that for what it is and, harking back to the HJ that was linked up thread, we burst their illusion. They know it's ridiculous but they can bury it, except we keep making them face it. If only we'd stop, go away, disappear, these fools could live in such a paradise. Every accusation is an admission.

Just be mentioned as a news story, in the news on Radio 4 after PM, which starts at 6pm. (you get the news and not Evan Davis sniggering stupidly)

Though not sure all listeners will quite understand what the issue is.

I'm glad there seems to be some backlash. I think he underestimated the racial aspect.

Ha ha yes! 🤣

I actually don't read the wishing KB not to exist as wanting her dead, so much as a wish for a kind of alternate reality where people he thinks are "bad" don't exist. Imagining that seems a big part of the left worldview.

Still inappropriate.

But I also think all this language of "existence" is interesting. It's huge around identity politics in general, but I don't remember people ever talking like that before. "We have a right to exist" "don't Denny that trans people exist" "black bodies can exist in this space" "Queer people exist, get over it."

I'm not sure where this came from originally, or why it resonates so much with identitarian progressives; it sounds ridiculous to me. But it does seem to drive some of the thinking on the left now so maybe is worth unpacking a bit?

Is "shut up" the new #nodebate? I've heard it quite a bit recently.

Anyone flagged this thread up to Mishal Husain yet?! I really hope she's going to ask some questions around this tonight!

I'm still reading p3 of this thread... has the way Mr Tennant set his wife up been discussed as yet?

Did someone upthread say that Sunak is going to by questioned by MNHQ?

I'm not sure if it is happening or if it is an assumption that we might get a Leaders Questions like the last few GEs.