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Islington North - who to vote for?

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Election2024 · 24/06/2024 17:48

I live in Islington North constituency and I’ve no idea who to vote for in this election.
My politics are left wing and I’m gender critical.
Our current MP is Corbyn, who is standing as an independent in this election. I don’t want to vote for him (and even more so after seeing him out on the campaign trail with Owen Jones 🙄).

I’m pissed off with Labour re self ID/Rosie Duffield treatment etc etc and don’t really want to vote for them either. Don’t want to vote for Greens and Lib Dems because of their batshit gender policies. Other candidates are Tory, Reform (no thanks), and an independent who I can’t find any information about. Sadly no other parties or even novelty candidates to choose from this election.

Normally I might consider spoiling my ballot paper… BUT, wondering if that’s risky this time? Whilst I’m angry with Labour, I would be pissed off if Corbyn got back in… Is it a risk? Should I hold my nose and vote for Labour?

interested to hear from other mumsnetters who are in a similar predicament. Who the hell do you vote for if you're left wing and gender critical?

(regular mumsnetter, have name changed because I’ve given my location).

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Election2024 · 24/06/2024 18:32

JandLandG · 24/06/2024 18:23

Cracking logic, here...

Never mind about Johnson, never mind about partygate, never mind about his defence of sex pests, never mind about all the fucking rest of it.

Never mind about Truss

Never mind about the ERG, never mind about Patel, never mind about Williamson and all the rest of those people who should have never been anywhere near the levers of power in this country.

Never mind about the chancellor who makes his own tax payments up, never mind about the non-dom PM's wife, never mind about the billions given to Tory mates of the VIP lane.

Never mind about any of that kind of stuff, eh...?

Yeah, I’m not voting Tory!
All your reasons, plus a million others. And I’m certainly not convinced by them re gender - they’ve had years to sort it out.

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Hyperions · 24/06/2024 18:31

JandLandG · 24/06/2024 18:23

Cracking logic, here...

Never mind about Johnson, never mind about partygate, never mind about his defence of sex pests, never mind about all the fucking rest of it.

Never mind about Truss

Never mind about the ERG, never mind about Patel, never mind about Williamson and all the rest of those people who should have never been anywhere near the levers of power in this country.

Never mind about the chancellor who makes his own tax payments up, never mind about the non-dom PM's wife, never mind about the billions given to Tory mates of the VIP lane.

Never mind about any of that kind of stuff, eh...?

I mind about those of course. But the loss of women's rights to dignity safety and privacy. And the poor women in prison with rapists come first.

PJHarvey · 24/06/2024 18:31

JandLandG · 24/06/2024 18:23

Cracking logic, here...

Never mind about Johnson, never mind about partygate, never mind about his defence of sex pests, never mind about all the fucking rest of it.

Never mind about Truss

Never mind about the ERG, never mind about Patel, never mind about Williamson and all the rest of those people who should have never been anywhere near the levers of power in this country.

Never mind about the chancellor who makes his own tax payments up, never mind about the non-dom PM's wife, never mind about the billions given to Tory mates of the VIP lane.

Never mind about any of that kind of stuff, eh...?

This. The Tories are no friends to women.

Add in the lack of action in tackling male violence against women during their time in goverment, and the fact that a not insignificant number of their MPs would like to make abortion laws more restrictive.

Labour is the logical choice in this instance.

Election2024 · 24/06/2024 18:29

WhereAreWeNow · 24/06/2024 18:08

I genuinely don't know. If it was purely about self ID, I guess you'd be voting Tory or Reform. But if you're left wing you're stuck between a rock and a hard place. I feel Labour are moving in the right direction and rowing back from previous lunacy. But I'd be reluctant to vote for the candidate that was imposed on the CLP. Isn't he a private health entrepreneur who's called for privatisation of the NHS?
Sorry, that probably doesn't help. Everyone I know seems to be struggling with similar questions.

Ive been trying to find out more about the privatisation story, but some of the sources have been a bit dubious so I’m not sure. I think his family run IVF clinics, his mum is/was a gynaecologist - so in theory he should know exactly what a woman is! But I can’t find anything about his views on gender.
I might have to vote for him to keep Corbyn out. Just had a look at the polls - YouGov are saying it’s close. Don’t think I could bear the smug face of Owen Jones if Corbyn gets back in.
What a shit choice!

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JandLandG · 24/06/2024 18:23

Hyperions · 24/06/2024 18:07

Tory I'm afraid, you've got to vote to defend your rights.

Cracking logic, here...

Never mind about Johnson, never mind about partygate, never mind about his defence of sex pests, never mind about all the fucking rest of it.

Never mind about Truss

Never mind about the ERG, never mind about Patel, never mind about Williamson and all the rest of those people who should have never been anywhere near the levers of power in this country.

Never mind about the chancellor who makes his own tax payments up, never mind about the non-dom PM's wife, never mind about the billions given to Tory mates of the VIP lane.

Never mind about any of that kind of stuff, eh...?

GrumpyPanda · 24/06/2024 18:14

My sympathies to all you wonderful women. I'm based in Germany, a card-carrying social Democrat of several decades' standing, and I ended up sitting out the recent European elections for this very reason. Same shit everywhere.

WhereAreWeNow · 24/06/2024 18:08

I genuinely don't know. If it was purely about self ID, I guess you'd be voting Tory or Reform. But if you're left wing you're stuck between a rock and a hard place. I feel Labour are moving in the right direction and rowing back from previous lunacy. But I'd be reluctant to vote for the candidate that was imposed on the CLP. Isn't he a private health entrepreneur who's called for privatisation of the NHS?
Sorry, that probably doesn't help. Everyone I know seems to be struggling with similar questions.

Hyperions · 24/06/2024 18:07

Tory I'm afraid, you've got to vote to defend your rights.

Election2024 · 24/06/2024 18:06

It’s depressing, isn’t it Toseland? No left wing parties who seem to care about women’s rights any more. I was very involved in student politics/NUS when I was younger - I’d never have believed it if you’d told me then how things would turn out!

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Toseland · 24/06/2024 17:53

I'm really concerned about Labour's plans for women. I'd usually vote Labour - not again anytime soon though.