Islington North - who to vote for?

I don’t know how the other parties do in your area but, until Diane Abbott was confirmed as running for Labour here in mine, I was wrestling with the same issue. As an indie she might have split the left-wing vote and allowed in the Tories, who tend to come second here. So after much agonising, I’d decided that I’d vote for Labour. I
i still will; I think Starmer is currently trying to please everyone/no one and will change his tune on women’s rights when/if he gets in. The Greens and Lib Dems, by contrast, I suspect actually believe and would stick to their gender policies.
Least worst option and all that.

There is nowhere in the country I would rather vote Labour than your seat, purely against the horrible misogynistic old dinosaurs of the Labour left and their stubborn stupid old totem.

And because Owen Jones doesn't want you to. Don't you really really want to mug off Owen Jones?

op it looks like Labour is your only, quite long shot, at keeping Corbyn out

https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/fcgi-bin/calcwork23.py?seat=Islington+North

Why on earth would you vote Reform UK Ltd? Nigel Farage is a raging misogynist. And the way he's running the party, as a business with him as CEO, means what he says goes, and the "Contract" is not worth the paper it's written on.

And the poor women in prison with rapists come first.

What, you mean the rapists the Conservatives put there?

I wouldn't worry, shortly noone will be going to prison at all. Just another thing broken by the Tories

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx777w9vgv9o

I live in Islington North and I will probably hold my nose and vote Labour. I can't vote for Corbyn because of the antisemitism thing. He was an okay constituency MP, but he was a disasterous leader of the opposition. I was also 🙄about little OJ campaigning for him.

It will be a close run thing and I just don't want Corbyn back.

long time ago I belonged to UCU, or its predecessor union, the AUT, and every single time when it came to voting a vast booklet would appear full of candidate statements, more than half of which had far more to say about boycotting Israel than the issues I wanted my union to focus on, i.e. employment conditions, salary, pensions and university funding in the UK.
I was the same. Utterly useless, have just sleepwalked into deprofessionalising teaching while spouting ideological bullshit all the time. I paid my subs for them to help teachers, not go on marches about trans rights.

I can't say I'm surprised to hear that, @winterrabbit. Time to trot out this prescient article again: https://www.feministcurrent.com/2018/03/23/leftist-women-uk-refuse-accept-labours-attempts-silence-critiques-gender-identity/ Scroll down to the bit about the Deptford Project and the total failure of students from Goldsmiths to grasp the reality of the lives of working class women in Deptford. They saw it as an opportunity to evangelise about their totalitarian ideas on language, identity etc rather than to offer any practical help and support.

A long time ago I belonged to UCU, or its predecessor union, the AUT, and every single time when it came to voting a vast booklet would appear full of candidate statements, more than half of which had far more to say about boycotting Israel than the issues I wanted my union to focus on, i.e. employment conditions, salary, pensions and university funding in the UK. I made a point of voting for the other candidates. It did no good, of course, because most people didn't bother to vote at all. I left in the end. The union was as much good as a chocolate teapot.

I read the Corbyn leaflet dropped through my door and there wasn't a single policy or statement that spoke to me as a professional full time worker and mother of three. I want to hear about what he's doing to do to reduce the shocking levels of knife crime, muggings and anti-social behaviour in the area that is completely eroding quality of life. He just sees the professional classes as cash cows to fund his socialist crap. Anti-semite, obsessed with Gaza and refugees but can't be bothered to address what's going on in his own backyard. And that's not even getting into his views on women.

I am in Islington North and in the same dilemma. No way am I voting for Corbyn and can't bring myself to vote Conservative again after the absolute shit show of the last few years. I was going to vote Labour but massively put off by Starmer on Question Time (I agree with Tony Blair) insincere bullshit. I also have a child in private school so feels like self sabotage to vote Labour and I have a feeling the working middle classes are going to get even more clobbered on tax. So not sure what to do. Possibly Reform, Conservative (if I can bear it) or spoil my paper.

It is very difficult to find information about the Party of Women candidates other than who they are. Do you have any useful links please if you’re involved? TIA.

That's absolutely what it feels like, women don't have the rights they fought for anymore, no party will stand against gender idealogy. Farage claims they will but they won't. The Tories allowed it to happen and are now trying to use it as a vote winner by saying they know what a woman is.

1997 Seeing Labour win was amazing, 2024 watching them win will be slightly less despairing than Tories winning 2019.

I think they'll be quite happy if women don't vote, they won't have to worry about women's rights if we don't vote. It'll be like those lovely days a hundred years ago when women were not allowed to vote.

I feel your pain.

Should you vote for:

A fuckwit
A half wit
An absolute moron
A raging dissembler
An openly misogynist racist

Fuck it. Just write in RON

When Corbyn insisted Lilly Madigan was a woman that's when I stopped voting Labour

Hello I live in Islington North!! I had a long conversation with a member of the Labour Party on my doorstep who explained the local situation with regard to Corbyn and who 100% understood my fears about women’s safety and what is happening to our children in schools. I agree with you entirely about not trusting Labour yet i would also do everything in my power to stop Corbyn who is an enormous populist and divisive figure and an antisemite. Happy to chat more if you DM me and I will share what he told me on the doorstep

This is going to be controversial but if I was in Islington North I’d vote for Corbyn. He’s a very good constituency MP. And more than that he’d take Sir Keir Starmer and the Labour Party to task when it needs doing (and sometimes when it doesn’t need doing). The Labour Party is a bit detached from its voters and it needs someone who’ll interfere with the steamroller effect in whatever way. It should be a broad church. I really dislike the way the chosen are being parachuted into seats without regard to what the local party thinks. So I’d send a reminder that people power does actually count.

Spoiled vote. I think it has been reported that many women may well choose to do that. In which case there should be specific reports of the numbers involved if only to make ALL parties think about the damage they have done.

Labour, no shadow of a doubt.

In Islington North I’d definitely vote Labour. The betting odds suggest it’s close with Corbyn favourite to win. He was a great constituency MP once but he’s well past his best before date.

I would too. I loathe Corbyn.

I don't live in your area, but if I did I would vote for whoever has the best chance of beating Corbyn.

Labour, like most UK political parties, believe a woman is anyone who says they are a woman. This means that crime statistics and the census become useless. Male criminals who say they identify as women have ended up in women's prisons. Women's and girls' sports are being infiltrated by male athletes who are breaking records and winning medals. Rape crisis and domestic violence centres which need to be single sex for women's safety and wellbeing are now effectively mixed sex. Women who request a female HCP or carer are not safe from finding a male HCP turning up.

That's a big chunk of the problem. There are massive issues with gender ideology in schools causing confusion and the lifelong medical problems that can result from affirmative 'care' for children, teenagers and adults with gender issues. There's also the problem that sexual orientation is a protected characteristic in the Equality Act but how can it be protected if gender is considered to trump sex and lesbians and gay men are vilified for not accepting trans-identified people of the opposite to their own sex in their dating pool?

In this election I am not voting positively sadly. I'm voting negatively. I really don't want a Labour MP so I will vote for the candidate who is currently second in the polls for my constituency (Labour is currently leading) and who has the best chance of beating Labour. It happens to be a Tory candidate. I don't particularly want to vote Tory this time but I don't want Labour more. It's the most depressed I've been in any election and the first time I have ever voted negatively but women died for our right to vote so I feel I must vote for someone.