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Queer Theory & "Violence" - [Fun activity]

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GerbilsAllTheWayDown · 24/06/2024 17:22

To start, what examples have you found where queer theory (and other critical theories) have said that constitutes violence?

  1. Microaggressions (e.g. asking the "wrong kind of questions") https://thelinknewspaper.ca/article/microaggressions-are-a-form-of-violence
  2. Censorship ("Censorship is an expression of violence – towards thought, ideas, and, in the words of Alfred Stieglitz, the “vital expression of the self”. Violence has no place against the self, and no place in art.") https://www.change.org/p/protect-free-speech-petition-to-peter-schaufuss-st-stephen-s-church
  3. Misgendering https://www.campusreform.org/article/misgendering-is-an-act-of-violence-university-argues-/23354
  4. Silence https://www.allyenergy.com/blog/white-silence-is-violence

And what do you think should be added to the list, and why?

  1. Pineapple on pizza: Many people openly dislike the idea of adding pineapple to pizza. Pineapples also contain enzymes which tenderize meat, and could constitute a form of low-level violence as the enzymes have a digestive effect in the mouth. Additionally, the imagery of a pineapple shape is quite spiky and therefore could be interpreted as a hostile fruit (unlike the peach, which is fuzzy and therefore a much kinder offering).
  2. Hockey socks and birkenstock sandals being worn at the same time: A lot of people find a socks and sandals combination jarring and this may make them feel unsafe. You are encouraged to avoid hockey socks (specifically the white ones with red or blue striping at the top) with brown birkenstock sandals as this is the most aggressive combination.
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ErrolTheDragon · 27/06/2024 12:56

NotBadConsidering · 27/06/2024 09:37

“Cheer up!”

Fuck off 🤬

That, along with the likes of 'smile, it may never happen' are for sure incitements to violence.

(Obviously, when I say 'violence' I mean the woman thus addressed eyerolling or ignoring, or other forms of noncompliance with the directive)

wrens23498 · 27/06/2024 11:24

TempestTost · 25/06/2024 01:40

I am pretty sure pineapples are queer, they are some sort of polygamous symbol.

Pineapples can reproduce asexually! So they're queer asexuals

Chersfrozenface · 27/06/2024 09:40

GerbilsAllTheWayDown · 27/06/2024 09:28

Haha, you've reminded me of the Spanish for non-binary 😂

Snerk.

The Italian for "a non-binary person" is "una persona non binaria".

And you have of course Eliot Sumner "l'attrice britannica non binaria".

😂😂😂

NotBadConsidering · 27/06/2024 09:37

“Cheer up!”

Fuck off 🤬

GerbilsAllTheWayDown · 27/06/2024 09:28

RedToothBrush · 27/06/2024 08:28

History is violence. Reminding someone of the past is not acceptable. Even if it's their own past. It is only acceptable if it is rewritten to suit a modern agenda and not reflect the past.

Mirrors and photos without a lens filter are violence. I mean it's all about passing so reminders that you don't pass are not acceptable.

Independent reports and independent scientific research without bias are violence. Cass Review anyone?

Ethics are violence. Nuff said.

Foreign languages with gendered nouns are violence. How very dare someone assume the gender of a table.

Foreign languages without gendered pronouns are violence. How very dare someone take away your ability to shrove your gender identity down everyone else's throats.

Haha, you've reminded me of the Spanish for non-binary 😂

Queer Theory & "Violence" - [Fun activity]
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RedToothBrush · 27/06/2024 08:28

History is violence. Reminding someone of the past is not acceptable. Even if it's their own past. It is only acceptable if it is rewritten to suit a modern agenda and not reflect the past.

Mirrors and photos without a lens filter are violence. I mean it's all about passing so reminders that you don't pass are not acceptable.

Independent reports and independent scientific research without bias are violence. Cass Review anyone?

Ethics are violence. Nuff said.

Foreign languages with gendered nouns are violence. How very dare someone assume the gender of a table.

Foreign languages without gendered pronouns are violence. How very dare someone take away your ability to shrove your gender identity down everyone else's throats.

ErrolTheDragon · 27/06/2024 08:24

Oh, the Grauniad - its nickname derives from its long history of violence against correct spellings. I always thought it was sloppiness and lack of basic proofreading but now I realise it's been trying to queer the language for decades.Shock

And now we have the violence inflicted by autocorrect when it insists on mangling words it's ignorant of, or capitalising words and phrases it shouldn't, I think mine has given up on doing this to 'male', at least but WTF is it doing when I want a Quick Look at something?

Chersfrozenface · 27/06/2024 08:12

And now the economy is violent.

I am doing my best to keep a straight face.

From the Grauniad (indeed, where else?) - my bolding.

"There’s all the gay flags and the celebrating of otherness, but is it just performative if the queer spaces we are celebrating are unable to continue in the face of the violent economic landscape?”

www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/jun/27/first-edition-pride-queer-nightlife-london?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

XChrome · 25/06/2024 20:47

ErrolTheDragon · 25/06/2024 18:11

Perfume. I'm allergic to it. Therefore, anybody wearing it has committed violence against my person.

In similar vein, Lush. The sickly smells that waft out of their shops and assail my nostrils (if I've not noticed the sign and crossed the road) is definitely violence.

In all seriousness, going by one of those kinds of shops gives me an instant headache. So I could actually make the argument that my rights are being violated.

PopeyesChicken · 25/06/2024 19:00

Friendship is violence. Socially anxious people experience attempts to befriend them as intrusive and hostile. Furthermore the cultural normalising of ‘friendship’ and ‘friendliness’ serves to other people with no friends.

Chersfrozenface · 25/06/2024 18:17

ErrolTheDragon · 25/06/2024 18:11

Perfume. I'm allergic to it. Therefore, anybody wearing it has committed violence against my person.

In similar vein, Lush. The sickly smells that waft out of their shops and assail my nostrils (if I've not noticed the sign and crossed the road) is definitely violence.

Lush in stations, even worse. You can't escape, you have to get to the platform your train is leaving from.

ErrolTheDragon · 25/06/2024 18:11

Perfume. I'm allergic to it. Therefore, anybody wearing it has committed violence against my person.

In similar vein, Lush. The sickly smells that waft out of their shops and assail my nostrils (if I've not noticed the sign and crossed the road) is definitely violence.

SquirrelSoShiny · 25/06/2024 18:05

Love this thread, just not witty enough to contribute 😂

lcakethereforeIam · 25/06/2024 17:19

I'm not an entomologist but I know a bug when I see one!

GerbilsAllTheWayDown · 25/06/2024 17:12

Actually, taxonomy is also like totally colonial!

We should reclassify animals into "huggable" and "non-huggable", that sounds much less violent (even if it results in death from hugging animals that look huggable but really aren't e.g. brown bears).

Or use a Pokémon classification system based on the abilities of the animals themselves - using this Japanese method will be much more effective, because everyone knows Eurocentric ideas are wrong and just generally oppressive.

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GerbilsAllTheWayDown · 25/06/2024 17:07

lcakethereforeIam · 25/06/2024 16:02

Calling invertebrates that aren't bugs 'bugs' should be deserving of a custodial sentence. Calling spiders 'insects' deserves the death penalty 💀

This might partly explain my problem with genderism.

Do you count bugs as any insect with a sucking mouthpart, or are do you only include hemiptera? Taxonomy is soooooo cishetnormative, you're such a bigot!

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lcakethereforeIam · 25/06/2024 16:02

Calling invertebrates that aren't bugs 'bugs' should be deserving of a custodial sentence. Calling spiders 'insects' deserves the death penalty 💀

This might partly explain my problem with genderism.

GiveMeSpanakopita · 25/06/2024 15:55

Thank you for starting a most worthwhile thread.

Just as it's important to establish what violence is, it's also important to establish what violence is not.

Referring to a bearded man in a dress as 'he' is violence.
Punching a terf however, is not violence.

Banning children from being subject to untested medical experimentation is violence.
Getting onstage to accept an award for your illustrious acting career and wishing death on a Black woman is not violence.

Banning males from using a lesbian only dating app is violence.
Tweeting rape and death threats at a famous female author is not violence.

Happy days!

Giggorata · 25/06/2024 15:41

Remarking on a nice sunny day is actual violence to me, as I am one of those pale blue people with freckles who cannot be in the sun. It is both triggering and othering, too.

BackToLurk · 25/06/2024 15:30

Tuneless whistling - I don't think I need to expand

GerbilsAllTheWayDown · 25/06/2024 15:25

AlisonDonut · 25/06/2024 10:33

My favourite microagressions are:
Not making eye contact.
and
Making eye contact.

Also:
Posting pictures of the most binary of the binaries...

In a similar vein, I'm sure it's a microaggression to not "educate yourself", but also a microaggression to ask questions.

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AlisonDonut · 25/06/2024 10:33

My favourite microagressions are:
Not making eye contact.
and
Making eye contact.

Also:
Posting pictures of the most binary of the binaries...

Queer Theory & "Violence" - [Fun activity]
FranticFrankie · 25/06/2024 10:23

Time is definitely non-consensual. It flies when you’re on holiday and drags at work. Doesn’t care does it? Wanton disregard for how you’re feeling at any time.
Not sure it’s violent though
And sweetcorn-doesn’t ask me if it can sneak into my guts hidden under cheese on a pizza? Performing micro aggressions on me??Even if I can usually spot it at 10 paces.
It’s a conspiracy

Glovenove · 25/06/2024 10:14

"Reaching out", with its horrible, folksy, faux-friendly overtones, makes me uncomfortable and is a form of violence against my peace of mind in work. Please just contact me instead.

Bunnyhair · 25/06/2024 09:29

I was told with great confidence by a 24-year-old last week that time is violent and non-consensual. I’m presuming the same goes for gravity.

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