Labour flip flopping re gender ideology in schools

Abeona · Today 09:38
I'm canvassing most days for my very good, secretly GC Labour MP
Just how useless is a secretly gc mp?
In Bristol Central, Debonnaire is (apparently- who knows?) Secretly Gc. And is also a good local mp.
But I won't vote for a woman who hasn't been in the open about this. Because this issue matters to me.

Urgh.

They are all believers in the concept of gender identity and are hellbent on bringing in laws that recognise it as fact.

Even Mr Moderate (Wes Streeting) clearly believes in it too, with his talk of "trans children" in parliament.

Whilst I fully accept that there will always be people who believe in it, I will never rollover and accept it being enforced on the country as a truth. Especially not in schools, where it introduces safeguarding risks to the most vulnerable children in particular.

They are worryingly oblivious to the number of lawsuits that will follow if they insist on keeping in the pipeline from schools to gender clinics. Following the Cass Report recommendations while upholding the confusing messaging that children are subject to in schools is beyond irresponsible.

I really hope enough parents are angry enough to fight hard on this. I'm fucking livid.

WTAF?

Not you Icake, Keir Starmer.

I don't mind whether he calls the belief in gender identity an ideology, a cult or simply a belief. Lots of different people use different words to describe it.

But it's a belief. It's not fact. Not everyone believes that we all have a gender identity.

As it's a contested belief, and we don't/shouldn't base laws on beliefs in secular countries, it has no place in schools.

I'm canvassing most days for my very good, secretly GC Labour MP and I'm hearing more and more about this on the doorstep every day. A couple of weeks ago when we started it was potholes and the NHS and 'bloody Tories'. Now I'm getting more 'I don't want my child to be taught s/he's trans in school' and (sadly) 'I'm sick of all this LGBT+ shite at work'. I've lost count of the number of people on the board who've voted Labour in the past saying they're not planning to vote because no party represents their views and some cite Labour's 'women problem'. This isn't the marginal issue that Starmer had hoped. He has to come off the fence and make sure every MP and follows his line. I'm getting the feeling that women really have had enough. They're (mainly) the ones trying to feed and clothe and raise their families on a shoestring because of the COL and they're sick of being told to budge over and be kind to men.

It means that some people who are what they say they aren't are alive and well and living in the same house and would have a tantrum if their families don't affirm them.

Starmer is such a weasel with his words. The 99.9% of women don’t have a penis to biological women don’t have a penis.

Women don’t have a penis, not just “biological women”. Seems to me his definition of women still includes trans women.

Well, Bridget has throw this dozy down so very clear that she's got no idea about being an effective and safe education minister

Bridget Phillipson says men with GRCs should be in women's toilets www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/5104838-bridget-phillipson-says-men-with-grcs-should-be-in-womens-toilets

The Telegraph have a article on Starmer failing to be clear on gender ideology or gender identity. Treating them as two separate things. One can be taught, one not. Which, to me, throws the gates wide open. As neither are defined, if challenged they can just claim they're teaching whatever.

www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/06/24/starmer-vows-to-ban-gender-ideology-being-taught-in-schools/

https://archive.ph/EbKNt when is an ideology not an ideology? Don't ask Kier.

It's bloody brilliant to watch! JKR is a complete legend!

Ha! Yes! Although unfortunately not (yet?) on schools.
However, the story is unfolding and she's getting mainstream press attention..

Both she and Wes Streeting have also now commented on the 4 nurses. Despite Labour's best efforts, the gender identity story is growing rather than receding.

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(Please mention the school safeguarding issue JKR... 🤞)

She's going for it @BonfireLady !

Weasel words.

"No, I’m not in favour of ideology being taught in our schools on gender."

Who could disagree with that? But it's meaningless unless his interpretation of ideology is the same as ours.

I think it's code/shorthand for the notion that people are who they say they are.

When people say "trans people exist" I never know what that means?

It's a nothing comment isn't it?

Between this and Reeves offering to meet with JKR it feels like we're now in an eleventh hour, very public negotiation with Labour.

Which is shite politics on their part because at any point in the last year they could have listened to women, consulted any of the numerous organisations set up and talked to women in their own party like Rosie Duffield or the LWD.

Apparently they'd rather have this battle very publicly via The Times, The Daily Mail and a variety of daytime talk shows.

This is what I'm hoping for 🤞🤞

Suffice to say, I don't quite have the reach of JKR with my own efforts but here's my entry in to the mix:

https://x.com/BonfireLady/status/1805205483524878755?t=zTFo_s-kyqI7hQJq8etmXA&s=19

From my POV it's critical that the focus remains on it being a belief that not everyone holds. I'm also more than happy for Keir to call it an ideology, as there is indeed a political movement which is underpinned by this belief.

Even though she's clearly a believer in the concept of gendered souls/essences, Angela Leadsom made far more sense than Bridget Phillipson did on the subject from a safeguarding perspective (from 32 mins):

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m0020ll8/politics-live-24062024

The debate in the programme just prior to this on the GRA was as frustrating as it was interesting, so also worth a listen. All the panelists are accepting the belief that everyone has a gender identity as if it's true, while some of them are more aware than others of the harm that can result from this belief.

Either way, it shouldn't be taught in schools as fact because it becomes ideological from the start, by telling believers that someone's gender identity is more important than their sex (unless they are Isla Bryson of course 🤦‍♀️). One of the biggest problems is that the believers don't seem to recognise that it's a belief. That's why it's so important that the definition remains as is in the Gender Questioning Children guidance.

That's what I thought too.

Is it only the men who are nailing colours to the mast?

I thought Bridget Phillipson was supposed to be one of our secret army of Labour gender critical heavyweights? Or is she still deep under cover?
Be careful in there Bridget.

Good.

Trans activists are also not happy

x.com/leftiestats/status/1805260851571478802?s=46&t=A2fpFNgDRyXF2d6ye97wEA

Labour are just assuming that women are stupid, of course.

Yes it's damaging them now and I am glad about that.

Captain Flip Flop strikes again