Trans people; why is it our responsibility?

I agree OP.

I don't really care about trans people.

I don't wish them any harm and don't want them discriminated against, but there are loads of other groups I'd prefer to give my limited attention to: people with disabilities, the elderly, young carers, young women for examples.

No one demands everyone has to care about those groups. they are mostly ignored and expectde to lobby for their own needs. I choose to take an interest in those especifc ones because they impact me in some way directly/ indirectly.

Yet we're all supposed to care about trans people.

I don't.

I don't mind them lobbying or raising funds for their own needs. 3rd spaces, shelters, charitable financial support for those who want to chop their balls off from those who care about that.

But I don't. And I don't see why women as a group should.

We should be able to advocate for ourseleves without having to solve or even care about their issues.

@XChrome

Okay, so trans identifying folks say that they need access to women's spaces because they aren't safe in men's spaces. I get that, but it is a problem caused by men. Therefore the solution should be about men, not women. So why isn't the main focus on targeting these men, campaigning for harsher penalties for such hate crimes? Why instead are they expecting women to compensate them for male behavior, making ourselves feel less safe in the process?

Possibly because its made up BS that is put forward so that Transwomen can have their own way.
Has anybody ever seen any stats the prove that trans people are at risk in male toilets?
The trans lobby seems to have stopped putting forward stats as they are so easy to disprove, so it seems like they are back to they "Feelz" that they are unsafe, so they must encroach on women's spaces.

I didn’t ask what percentage have a penis. I asked if people would be ok with a post op male to female transsexual using female facilities. Genuinely interested in the answer to that.

OP I no longer view TERF as a slur.

The 'TE' stands for 'trans exclusionary'. Well yes, transwomen should be excluded from biological female single sex spaces for a whole host of reasons outlined in this thread. Safety, dignity, privacy, religious and cultural reasons, trauma reasons, fairness reasons in sport. I stand by that.

Transmen (biologically female) are not being excluded from these spaces. Only sports if their artificial testosterone level disqualifies them, their qualification times/ability is hopelessly adrift of the minimum requirement in the biological male or 'open' category, their instinct for self preservation prevents them from taking part in sports in the biological male category - particularly contact sports (I have no idea if the rules prevent this but you don't hear transmen screeching about it, probably because they're intelligent enough to know they'd get hurt).

Moving on, the 'RF' stands for 'radical feminist'. I don't think it's a radical position to take when the silent majority of the country agrees. I don't even know if it's particularly feminist, it just seems like common sense to me. Women and girls are physically weaker and at much greater risk of male violence. Most men and women understand that. People are afraid to speak out because it's been bizarrely framed as a bigoted view (TRAs are very fond of equating it to racial segregation and homophobia).

I think I am perhaps a hyper terf now. No to men using women's names. No to men wearing skirts (seeing as I have been forced to wear these for being a woman). Any man dressing up as a little girl, wearing dummies or pigtails, calling himself a young girl's name to be investigated for pedophilia.

Quite simply, the fact transwomen (and it is transwomen, there's a serious lack of demand from transmen or discussion from TRAs about transmen) have been able to change so many things at such high levels is proof in itself that transwomen are not biological women.

If transwomen were women then what they want and how they feel would be considered unimportant and irrelevant and they would never have got such control over policies and practices in so many institutions. They'd be accused of being hysterical or irrational or over emotional and what they wanted would never have been given and sure as shit not so easily at at the direct expense of others.

Still getting my head around this.
Of course a man should not play a woman at a professional sport, even if he is wearing a tennis skirt, or boxing in a pink T shirt, because he is a man.
He will, in almost all cases, be stronger. He has an unfair advantage.
I have no objection to him wearing a tennis skirt while playing tennis against a man.
What is the scenario if 'Julie' gets changed for swimming, in the women and children's changing room and drops his towel?
Is this indecent exposure? Or do we have to think that this 'woman' just happens to have a penis, and not mention it?
Call me old fashioned, but I don't think a woman should have a penis. (hermaphrodites excepted)