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UtopiaPlanitia · 24/06/2024 00:37

ifIwerenotanandroid · 23/06/2024 23:57

'As well as simplifying the application process, Labour will also get rid of a requirement to have consent from the spouse of the person wishing to change gender.' says the article.

Is this the so-called 'spousal veto', more properly the spousal exit clause?

https://labourwomensdeclaration.org.uk/the-spousal-consent-clause-in-the-gra-an-important-protection-for-women/#:~:text=The%20pause%20provided%20by%20the,before%20a%20certificate%20is%20granted.

Yes, that's the spousal exit clause which means Labour are happy to throw transwidows under the bus in their stampede towards peak TRA-friendliness. I honestly can't see how this can do anything but make the process of disentangling from a relationship more fraught for wives.

UtopiaPlanitia · 23/06/2024 23:25

borntobequiet · 23/06/2024 22:12

They really, really, really don’t listen, do they? Idiots.

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No, they don’t listen because they’re too busy virtue signalling 🤬

UtopiaPlanitia · 23/06/2024 23:23

Igneococcus · 23/06/2024 21:45

This might deserves a thread on its own but I put it here for now:

They’re really wedded to the idea of removing spousal consent - yeah, that shows they really have women’s needs and concerns at heart 🙄

lcakethereforeIam · 23/06/2024 22:39

From the Times article

They are required to submit proof that they have changed genders, which can include official documents such as utility bills or passports, or even library cards or supermarket loyalty cards.

they could almost literally get a GRC from Tesco!

ActivePeony · 23/06/2024 22:21

borntobequiet · 23/06/2024 22:12

They really, really, really don’t listen, do they? Idiots.

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See also the new thread on the schools' guidance. I am so fucking angry and sad. They are a disaster on this.

QueenofTheBorg · 23/06/2024 22:14

Floisme · 23/06/2024 15:10

This on Twix has just made me laugh:
JKRowling;
'Labour giving the same energy as a man who's been shagging a woman from work but thinks his wife should be cool about it because he's always put the bins out.'
https://x.com/jk_rowling/status/1804846509856334110

Omg that’s hilarious

borntobequiet · 23/06/2024 22:12

Igneococcus · 23/06/2024 21:45

This might deserves a thread on its own but I put it here for now:

They really, really, really don’t listen, do they? Idiots.

GailBlancheViola · 23/06/2024 22:10

They are shitting all over Trans Widows, how fucking abhorrent.

BreadInCaptivity · 23/06/2024 22:06

Well how very predictable from Labour....

Fuckers.

BreadInCaptivity · 23/06/2024 22:01

That worked. Thank you!

BreadInCaptivity · 23/06/2024 21:58

Igneococcus · 23/06/2024 21:45

This might deserves a thread on its own but I put it here for now:

On the app and it's not showing a link...

ActivePeony · 23/06/2024 21:46

Igneococcus · 23/06/2024 21:45

This might deserves a thread on its own but I put it here for now:

Bloody hell. There it is - self fucking id.

ActivePeony · 23/06/2024 21:44

Yes the Greens hate women more than the LP do. They are completely mad on this issue.

Feministwoman · 23/06/2024 21:36

ActivePeony · 22/06/2024 12:56

Staunch Tory land full of farmers so that would be a genuine upset for that area.

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My area, Ellie Chowns is very popular, a CC, was our MEP and the Greens are very close to the sitting Tory MP in the polls.
Still can't bring myself to vote for her, sadly, due to GPEW bonkers anti woman stance.

ActivePeony · 23/06/2024 21:35

BreadInCaptivity · 23/06/2024 18:34

It's worth watching the video this refers to:

x.com/mandyclareterf/status/1804570461822767154?s=46&t=88gZvdSnTk70X8b2ZUPZtA

Summed up - stop making a fuss about things we leftie men don't think matter and put your efforts into doing things we determine to be worthy.

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That is HORRENDOUS. Smug, arrogant bastards. How fucking dare they treat her that way? 😡

duc748 · 23/06/2024 21:34

GailBlancheViola · 23/06/2024 21:23

But we're not voting on past manifestos & governments, are we?

And if we were the GRA is prime evidence of just how little consideration Labour have for women and women's rights. The current state of play stems entirely from the GRA and EqA both pieces of legislation brought in by Labour.

Yes, absolutely this. Half the problem is caused by the piss-poor and contradictory legislation that Labour brought in, of which they are 'so proud'. And they tell us they will 'update' the GRA. Which isn't going to improve things, on the contrary.

BezMills · 23/06/2024 21:24

BreadInCaptivity · 23/06/2024 18:34

It's worth watching the video this refers to:

x.com/mandyclareterf/status/1804570461822767154?s=46&t=88gZvdSnTk70X8b2ZUPZtA

Summed up - stop making a fuss about things we leftie men don't think matter and put your efforts into doing things we determine to be worthy.

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We get a lot of that here

GailBlancheViola · 23/06/2024 21:23

But we're not voting on past manifestos & governments, are we?

And if we were the GRA is prime evidence of just how little consideration Labour have for women and women's rights. The current state of play stems entirely from the GRA and EqA both pieces of legislation brought in by Labour.

ActivePeony · 23/06/2024 21:22

Datun · 23/06/2024 15:17

The tories are so shit that JKR is now the official opposition.

Exactly what I think 😄

I know lots of people say this issue is still fairly niche. And be that as it may. It's still the issue that can make him look unbelievably awful. Really easily.

Agree completely.

ifIwerenotanandroid · 23/06/2024 20:53

But we're not voting on past manifestos & governments, are we? We're voting on Labour's offer for the next five years & it's looking worse for women by the day.

Also, what about compensation for WASPI women? Article is from 14 June. Whether or not you agree with the issue of compensation (& please don't anyone derail into that), it will be interesting to see what happens if Labour win - though I'd have preferred them to say one way or the other in the manifesto, so we all know where we stand.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/lifestyle/money/waspi-state-pension-labour-pledge-33028590

WASPI women urge Labour to ‘reconfirm support’ for State Pension compensation

The ‘End Frozen Pensions’ campaign also said Labour has ‘missed an opportunity’ to level up payments for retirees living abroad.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/lifestyle/money/waspi-state-pension-labour-pledge-33028590

lcakethereforeIam · 23/06/2024 20:34

A BBC article on Bridget Phillipson's interview today, all very predictable

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cxxx821l57go

As well as failing to commit to maintaining the new guidance to keep genderwoo out of schools (I think it isn't kind enough), I'm quoting the last sentence

I don’t believe it’s an either/or but I would say really, do judge us on what we’ve done in the past to support women.

See, Bridie, that's the problem. That's what I'm judging you on.

Bridget Phillipson

Labour avoids committing to draft schools gender guidance

Bridget Phillipson says draft guidance has some "good" parts but "other elements" are "too partisan".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cxxx821l57go