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EasternStandard · 24/06/2024 18:23

PronounssheRa · 24/06/2024 18:21

JKR in no mood to be schmoozed

https://twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1805279881179316460

I'll be happy to meet after
NoXYinXXprisons, LesbianLabour, WomensRightsNet, WomansPlaceUK
and AllianceLGB have been given in person meetings with the Labour leadership. I'd also like to know whether
AngelaRayner still considers the last two organisations hate groups - asking on behalf of female survivors of domestic violence and gay people who don't subscribe to gender identity ideology

She is brilliant

How good is it to see this rebounding around the media, after a long time

PronounssheRa · 24/06/2024 18:21

JKR in no mood to be schmoozed

https://twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1805279881179316460

I'll be happy to meet after
NoXYinXXprisons, LesbianLabour, WomensRightsNet, WomansPlaceUK
and AllianceLGB have been given in person meetings with the Labour leadership. I'd also like to know whether
AngelaRayner still considers the last two organisations hate groups - asking on behalf of female survivors of domestic violence and gay people who don't subscribe to gender identity ideology

x.com

https://twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1805279881179316460

Waitwhat23 · 24/06/2024 18:00

Freda Wallace who got so pissed at a debate panel (with Kathleen Stock afaicr) that Peter Tatchell had to take his glass of red off him with a quiet word?

lcakethereforeIam · 24/06/2024 17:56

But, apparently, also what's on your loyalty card.

Chersfrozenface · 24/06/2024 17:53

GenericMNwoman · 24/06/2024 17:15

Oh shit! DH and I share the club card and it’s in his name!
Does that mean I’m a man now!?!!

<carefully looks down and peers into trousers>

You're OK @GenericMNwoman. As the TRAs and "allies" never tire of telling us, it's not what's in your pants that matters, it's what's in your head.

GenericMNwoman · 24/06/2024 17:15

Hepwo · 24/06/2024 01:14

Labour are giving out lady tickets to men with a tesco club card? They are desperate for votes eh? They will literally do anything.

Oh shit! DH and I share the club card and it’s in his name!
Does that mean I’m a man now!?!!

<carefully looks down and peers into trousers>

Chersfrozenface · 24/06/2024 16:50

From the Times article above:
"Morgan McSweeney, the party’s campaign chief, is said to believe that there are 100 seats or more which are currently too close to call, with about five million voters still uncertain which party to back.
McSweeney’s focus on winning over “hero voters” in swing seats who previously voted Conservative has helped put Labour on course for power, and the strategy has seen the party pick up support in constituencies it needs to win while shedding some on the left in safe urban seats."

So why are Labour pushing gender ideology, which is unlikely to appeal to just the voters they want to attract?

Are they hoping those voters won't notice or care? And that the urban voters can be kept on side with rainbow-washing?

Vegemiteandhoneyontoast · 24/06/2024 16:45

Sad to say that I'm a thoroughly safe Tory seat and tactical voting would make no difference. I shall be spoiling my ballot.

BroadBeer · 24/06/2024 16:00

Hatfullofwillow · 21/06/2024 21:57

She's one of people that contributed to the Tories winning in 2017, she abandoned Labour.

The left abandoned us!

Vegemiteandhoneyontoast · 24/06/2024 15:38

Wistfullythinking · 24/06/2024 15:29

That recent statement re making it easier to get a GRA clinched it for us.

Edited

Damned right it has! Do they think women are stupid?

Wistfullythinking · 24/06/2024 15:33

Elmrosie · 24/06/2024 15:28

@EasternStandard

This is Freda Wallace. I mentioned this discussion upthread.

Way to say you haven't read the book without saying you haven't read the book (Freda, obviously, that is - deciding that people don't mean what they say, but only what the TRAs say they mean Confused)

Beefandwine · 24/06/2024 15:31

My friend a long-time labour voter and party member, has said she's not voting for them this year. She's not sure where her vote is going now.

Wistfullythinking · 24/06/2024 15:29

Vegemiteandhoneyontoast · 24/06/2024 15:09

You can count me out of voting for them, so there's another dissenter.

That recent statement re making it easier to get a GRA clinched it for us.

Elmrosie · 24/06/2024 15:28

@EasternStandard

This is Freda Wallace. I mentioned this discussion upthread.

JKR in The Times. Labour have dismissed women like me
ifIwerenotanandroid · 24/06/2024 15:25

BrownTroutBluesAgain · 24/06/2024 15:23

I second that question. What’s a ledge?

I thought it was a typo but decided probably legend.

EasternStandard · 24/06/2024 15:25

Aus slang for legend have been spending time around it

ifIwerenotanandroid · 24/06/2024 15:25

I'd like to see someone do a 'Did you threaten to overrule him?' type of interview with Starmer about single sex spaces versus 'safe spaces'.

BrownTroutBluesAgain · 24/06/2024 15:23

GailBlancheViola · 24/06/2024 15:15

What are they saying?

I second that question. What’s a ledge?

GailBlancheViola · 24/06/2024 15:21

Excellent!

EasternStandard · 24/06/2024 15:20

GailBlancheViola · 24/06/2024 15:15

What are they saying?

Pretty much an excellent verbal account of similar to GC on here. Labour fudging it, we need single sex. Used correct sex based pronouns for someone called Frida Wallace which was great.

Shelagh F tried to soften but Catherine (name of caller) said as I am allowed and SF agreed. I read this on here but so good to hear clarity on other media.

ifIwerenotanandroid · 24/06/2024 15:16

Datun · 24/06/2024 13:18

Same.

but, I'd be willing to bet, they say they don't agree with primogenitor anyway. Thus sidestepping the question.

But that wouldn't be good enough. If they REALLY don't believe in primogeniture & want to enrage the aristos, they should bring it into line with the rest of their changes. Otherwise, Labour would be bringing in one rule for the rich & one rule for the rest of us. They wouldn't do that, surely?

GailBlancheViola · 24/06/2024 15:15

EasternStandard · 24/06/2024 14:56

Great caller on LBC now. If you’re a mner you’re a ledge

What are they saying?

PurpleSparkledPixie · 24/06/2024 15:12

Wistfullythinking · 24/06/2024 15:06

I have spoken to two women today who were going to vote for Labour but aren't now. Add me and that's three!

I wasn't going to vote Labour but was debating between not going or spoiling the paper, as our MP has retired and there are 7 different candidates to choose from this GE - all of them bad, but now I don't know. There's a baby who is Conservative & Unionist Party, whatever the hell that is.

EDIT - apparently it's the Conservatives full title? First time I've seen it listed like that.

Vegemiteandhoneyontoast · 24/06/2024 15:09

Wistfullythinking · 24/06/2024 15:06

I have spoken to two women today who were going to vote for Labour but aren't now. Add me and that's three!

You can count me out of voting for them, so there's another dissenter.