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New sexuality/gender group set up at daughter's school - how do I respond?

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stabledoor · 20/06/2024 18:35

My daughter is in Y8. So far her school (large suburban comprehensive) has been remarkably free of any issues around gender. But yesterday there was a notification that a new lunchtime club for those who are 'confused/questioning their sexuality/gender identity' is being started by a teacher. I wrote to the teacher immediately yesterday asking some very neutral questions around which year groups it's aimed at, what she thinks they'll do at the club, what resources or information she'll be using. The teacher has responded at length, and I can share her response, but don't want to make this first post overwhelming. I just would appreciate some help in terms of what I do next. It's raised lots of red flags for me. My daughter is very interested in these issues, and there's a big conversation (which I have been avoiding) that I need to have with her at home around gender ideology. But I feel my priority right now is to manage what's happening at school. I'm so shocked that post-Cass, a teacher still thinks it's appropriate to set up this kind of group.
Should I respond to the teacher for the moment, or should I write to the safeguarding lead? What are the points I need to be making? I'm a little overwhelmed by this whole area, and just not quite sure where to start.

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BreatheAndFocus · 20/06/2024 19:20

Yes, I’d be worried too. What qualifications does this well-meaning teacher have to deal with such issues? The very fact she’s gone to Stonewall is a worry in and of itself.

Safe Schools Alliance has some good info:

https://safeschoolsallianceuk.net/schools-resources-and-policies/

^“Children who are questioning their sexuality may benefit from an LGB support group. However, schools should be aware that any group specifically set up to provide support on issues around sexuality is likely to be targeted by those who seek to groom and abuse children. Some children may have been groomed or exposed to inappropriate content online, and may have absorbed very harmful messages that are then shared with other children in the group. This may occur between children of the same age, or when children are grouped across a wider age range. All adults involved must be aware of these risks and have procedures in place to mitigate them.
A student support group for children who are questioning their ‘gender identity’ has a considerable number of additional safeguarding risks.
Children with gender dysphoria have clinically significant distress. Children who are experiencing this level of mental distress should not be expected to be ‘supported’ by other children, particularly those who may themselves be experiencing significant distress. It is an abject failure of safeguarding to expect clinically distressed children to provide support to other clinically distressed children; at the very least, any such support group would need to be closely supervised in a clinical setting, circumstances which clearly are not possible in a school.
In addition to the distress of gender dysphoria, children who are trans-identified are disproportionately likely to have undiagnosed autism, to have suffered sexual abuse or trauma, or have comorbid mental health issues. Again, children experiencing these issues cannot be expected to support each other outside of a closely supervised clinical setting.
It is likely that children in an LGBT support group will encourage each other to socially transition. There is no long-term evidence base to support the affirmative approach to gender, and social affirmation can lead to a gender identity becoming embedded, which in turn increases the risk that the young person will seek to medically transition in future. Schools must not create situations in which children are facilitated to encourage social transition.

  • How will the school ensure that children do not encourage each other to socially transition?
  • How will the school oversee children’s interactions online with groups that encourage transitioning, often by romanticising the idea of a ‘true self’ that will be publicly ‘celebrated’ once a child has transitioned?
  • How will the school oversee children’s interactions online with groups that view any questioning of gender ideology as ‘transphobic’ and encourage children to separate from their parents unless they are immediately affirmed?
  • How will the school oversee children’s interactions online with groups that promote adult involvement with children’s emerging sexualities? “^

Schools resources & policies - Safe Schools Alliance UK

Many schools' PSHE resources come from gender ideology lobby groups. This guide supports parents in countering incorrect information..

https://safeschoolsallianceuk.net/schools-resources-and-policies/

stabledoor · 20/06/2024 18:38

This is the email I received from the teacher:

Thank you for your email enquiring about my club beginning in July. In answer to your questions the club is currently open to students in KS3-KS4 (year 7 to 10 as year 11s are sitting GCSEs), however I am thinking about branching it out to KS5 too as it may be nice for the younger students to have some older pupils to support and look up to.

I have created a google form for students to sign up to keep confidentiality and ensure only students that have registered a genuine interest are coming along. It will be held during Wednesday lunchtimes and the first session will be a chance to get to know everyone and discuss any LGBTQ+ role models they may have and what their hopes are from the club as I want the club to be for them and meet their needs. Once we have established interests and everyone's hopes we will decide on weekly topics such as music, history, reading, sport, tv and film etc etc. and we can have a designated student or students to present on the subjects each week, if that's what the pupils would like or simply have everyone discuss their knowledge and opinions on the topic, allowing students to be introduced to new interests or guided towards certain books etc. they may enjoy. Once I have gotten to know the students and what they are hoping for and how they would like it to run I will have a more structured plan, but for now I would like it to come from then and be built upon as after all it is a group for them.

In terms of resources and information I have found some brilliant resources on Just like us such as reading lists for each Key stage. Stonewall also provides some great information and resources and elop youth has fantastic mentoring services to support the wellbeing of young LGBTQ+ people. If this is something any of the students feel they will benefit from, information can be provided. I have also been in touch with a teacher from XX school who has a similar successful club to see what guidance and support she can give to make the group flourish.

I have wanted to begin the club for some time now, but it has taken a while to plan the logistics of it. I think starting as Pride month comes to an end is fitting because awareness should have been raised during PSHE/form lessons and hopefully by the end of summer the club will be well established and ready to continue successfully as of September.

I hope the above answers your questions, but if you do have any more questions or concerns please do get in touch.

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