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Lesbian dating app to use facial recognition to exclude males

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zibzibara · 20/06/2024 00:54

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13484121/Lesbian-dating-app-use-facial-recognition-exclude-trans-women-matching-biological-females.html

This is from Jenny Watson who's known for fearlessly kicking out the males invading her lesbian speed dating events, now she's doing the same with a new dating app for women. Hopefully it will work as advertised but even if the usual crop of males manage to impose themselves through whatever deceitful trickery, it just further proves her point about how lesbians are being bullied out of their own spaces. Wishing her the best of luck with this!

Lesbian dating app to use facial recognition to exclude trans women

The first dating app for lesbians is set to launch - using sex-recognition technology to exclude trans women and ensure only biological females can sign up.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13484121/Lesbian-dating-app-use-facial-recognition-exclude-trans-women-matching-biological-females.html

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IwantToRetire · 13/08/2024 17:39

pcmusic · 13/08/2024 09:27

I said what I said, feel free to come back to this thread and gloat if either of them appear.

Have you checked the web site.

It says what is available.

I was just asking if you had some information that can be used to say the web site is being dishonest.

Quite honestly your first post was just juvenile.

One of the values of FWR is sharing actual information. This isn't twitter.

So do you have an actual information, or are you just showing off.

McSilkson · 13/08/2024 16:25

Tested the Nyckel app using a photo of a trans-identified, VERY pretty guy I used to date (he took hormones for a while, but had been off them for years when we were involved) - huge blue eyes, full pink lips, thick, waist-length hair - and the app identified him as a woman with 84.85% confidence. So...

pcmusic · 13/08/2024 09:27

IwantToRetire · 13/08/2024 00:32

What are you talking about?

She has set up and still runs a lesbian meet up (even though venues tried to block her)

And offers a dating app for lesbians who are biological women

The proposed venue hasn't yet started. Are you sayiing it is never going to happen.

If not what is the purpose of your post.

I said what I said, feel free to come back to this thread and gloat if either of them appear.

eatfigs · 13/08/2024 08:15

Does the dating app exist yet? To be honest I got the impression she was way out of her depth with that one.

IwantToRetire · 13/08/2024 00:32

pcmusic · 12/08/2024 21:34

Jenny Watson doesn't actually complete any of her projects - she just likes to raise money from women and then not complete them, it was a lesbian venue before this which seems to have disappeared into the ether and I'm sure the dating app will go the same way.

What are you talking about?

She has set up and still runs a lesbian meet up (even though venues tried to block her)

And offers a dating app for lesbians who are biological women

The proposed venue hasn't yet started. Are you sayiing it is never going to happen.

If not what is the purpose of your post.

CowboyJoanna · 12/08/2024 22:21

Zebracat · 12/08/2024 18:09

Well well

GrinGrin
I dont care what the mainstream media will have you try and believe, HE is a TIM

pcmusic · 12/08/2024 21:34

krazynutnut · 12/08/2024 18:50

I've recently come out and would love to find these apps, I cant find anything on play store, does anyone have any recommendations tia x

Jenny Watson doesn't actually complete any of her projects - she just likes to raise money from women and then not complete them, it was a lesbian venue before this which seems to have disappeared into the ether and I'm sure the dating app will go the same way.

DuesToTheDirt · 12/08/2024 20:32

@Zebracat haha, @DuchessNope oh dear.

I get 97.15% woman, from a terrible, post-menopausal railcard photo in which even I would be doubtful I'm a woman! DH is 91% man, though since he's a baldie I'm surprised he didn't get higher.

krazynutnut · 12/08/2024 18:50

I've recently come out and would love to find these apps, I cant find anything on play store, does anyone have any recommendations tia x

DuchessNope · 12/08/2024 18:39

And yet…

Lesbian dating app to use facial recognition to exclude males
Zebracat · 12/08/2024 18:09

Well well

Lesbian dating app to use facial recognition to exclude males
CowboyJoanna · 12/08/2024 15:46

AGlinnerOfHope · 20/06/2024 08:15

Is it not in everyone's interests to feed in a hell of a lot more faces to counteract the problem? I don't understand why this is so hard.

Or to have databases and programs for different ethnicities, which would be more reliable?

Surely the Chinese have a phenomenal one based on their population!

In terms of our own skills, we don't work as well on photos, we work on 3D information- including movement.

Well fortunately the Chinese know what a man and a woman are and dont have a trans epidemic (yet)

0Oo · 22/06/2024 13:34

zibzibara · 20/06/2024 11:32

If the app is recording straight off the phone camera for the face verification wouldn't that stop people using filters to fool it?

Apps like Starling Bank get the person to record the video reciting an exact sentence. The machine learning looks for filters, and other tell-tail signs of video manipulation. It is quite well for detecting fraud

0Oo · 22/06/2024 13:17

Typo: First result was 98.33%.

Glad it works.

0Oo · 22/06/2024 13:06

DuchessNope · 20/06/2024 07:33

https://www.nyckel.com/pretrained-classifiers/gender-detector/

This is the AI the app uses if you want to play around with it. I got 98% woman.

"Woman98.59% confident"

From using a full frontal portrait photo if me where I tilted my head a bit back to over emphasis my jaw to make the proportion bigger and more male looking than in real life.

"Woman 98.59% confident"
When I did a neutral portrait without any tilt, so my facial proportions were not distorted.

JanesLittleGirl · 21/06/2024 19:19

My advice for what it is worth:

Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. The technology might not be perfect but it will filter out some chancers and discourage others from trying it on.

Helleofabore · 21/06/2024 18:23

It would be a novel idea indeed.

However, ‘if wishes were fishes’ and all that. In the meantime, some women want to have a spaces for themselves and other women only and need to start somewhere. They either use one of the software options to do a first screen and then follow up those who fall outside the screening option they choose. Or, they have to abandon their efforts because they cannot manage it without hiring a team to manually contact each and every person to onboard them.

As it has been said. Wouldn’t it be nice to just have the confidence that all male people would respect the boundaries of others?

UtopiaPlanitia · 21/06/2024 14:45

334bu · 21/06/2024 14:39

No need for technology if men just stopped trying to force their way into female only spaces.

Gosh, wouldn’t that be a novel (rather wonderful) idea 👍

334bu · 21/06/2024 14:39

No need for technology if men just stopped trying to force their way into female only spaces.

PeppercornMill · 21/06/2024 13:50

You're all getting too obsessed over the technology, and there are (perhaps not here) bad actors who say "well it doesn't quite work, so best get rid of it and let men in".

The main thing with this is to be off-putting to male chancers, it sends a message that any man identifying as a lesbian is not welcome. In some cases I think some men are so self-deluded they think that self-identification is going to work, perhaps some others think they can force themselves onto lesbians with the woman in question not wanting to appeared bigoted.

GoodieMcTwoshoes · 21/06/2024 13:31

@SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice When they realised they could be wrong, one of these 'feminists' said 'either way, what an uggo.'

I see uglier people than me every day of the week, I just am not ugly in a 'feminine' way apparently. Grin

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 21/06/2024 10:55

GoodieMcTwoshoes · 20/06/2024 23:53

I've had some trawl through my facebook taking innocent comments and illustrations I had as signs I was secretly a man. Sometimes they were literally seeing things that weren't there.

I understand the worry as I'm female, LGB, and gender critical too.

But people have been traumatisingly awful in the name of this movement to the extent it's put me off the whole movement.

This definitely happens and it is frustrating that many women in the debate deny that it happens. Other women will admit they do it, but deflect and say if they mistake a woman for a man larping as a woman, then it is the fault of transgender ideology that they have to be like this and the women they abuse should not blame them at all, should just stop whinging and be proud to take one for the team.

I don’t agree with that at all. Traumatising other women is not justifiable collateral damage.

GoodieMcTwoshoes · 20/06/2024 23:53

PatatiPatatras · 20/06/2024 23:04

Women are paranoid. Who would have thought. Soon we'd all be fainting from hysteria.

What would it take for people to stop minimising women's worries?

Some women are worried about men in their spaces reserved for dignity. You don't get it fine. But don't undermine another woman's worry.

I've had some trawl through my facebook taking innocent comments and illustrations I had as signs I was secretly a man. Sometimes they were literally seeing things that weren't there.

I understand the worry as I'm female, LGB, and gender critical too.

But people have been traumatisingly awful in the name of this movement to the extent it's put me off the whole movement.

PatatiPatatras · 20/06/2024 23:04

Women are paranoid. Who would have thought. Soon we'd all be fainting from hysteria.

What would it take for people to stop minimising women's worries?

Some women are worried about men in their spaces reserved for dignity. You don't get it fine. But don't undermine another woman's worry.

GoodieMcTwoshoes · 20/06/2024 22:16

I expect most women's brains make this analysis subconsciously in fractions of a second when looking at faces.

Well a lot are definitely wrong in their opinion in my experience- some are outright paranoid to the point of psychosis about secret men.