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Schools - any sense the trend is waning?

42 replies

tobee · 18/06/2024 16:24

My dc are long past school age. And pretty much missed the trend anyway.

Just wondering if any parents or teachers are seeing any evidence that declaring yourself trans or non binary etc is going out of style?

Just asking for an overview based on anecdote fwiw.

Even though there seems to have been a shift since Cass etc I'm hoping this is reflected in our young people.

I'm particularly interested in what's coming from the students rather than what schools are doing.

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OriginalUsername2 · 18/06/2024 17:37

Dd has just left school. In yr 8 there seemed to be about a dozen identifying as trans or NB. One was a cat 🙄

Now at the end of year 11 one girl still identifies as NB “for attention” apparently but looks like a regular girl.

Last year I had an awkward email exchange trying to inform the HT that their Pride / stonewall fundraiser complete with flags, rainbows and coloured clothes was a little problematic, linking to proof. I was basically given a tinkly laugh in reply.

This year - I believe because of the Cass report but I’m guessing - there was no event for Pride, just the “opportunity to wear a colourful accessory” to mark the occasion and no stonewall involved, no fundraising.

WarriorN · 18/06/2024 17:37

an increase in trans identified staff from what I'm seeing / hearing

MercutiosFiddlestick · 18/06/2024 17:29

Definitely on the decline at the school I teach at. A couple of years ago it was definitely a thing. Much less now. As soon as something becomes mainstream, kids get bored. A trans teacher is an easy way for something to become uncool.

I guess we are now only seeing the genuinely struggling students. As mentioned before, these students are often ASD (or suspected) who see things in a very binary way. Don’t like playing football or you fancy boys = female, don’t want long hair/fake nails or you fancy girls = male. Oversimplified but you get the gist.

FuckOffYokeofOpression · 18/06/2024 17:13

Yes. The trans kids from primary have detransitioned. DDs school has one NB 'nobody really likes them, they're weird and my school is full of homophobic chavs'

So, that's the view of a 13 year old in UK state school. Sounds like business as usual untouched by trends. Schools are not especially great places to be for pupils.

Billyandharry · 18/06/2024 17:12

I for one am delighted that my yr 11 daughter is now fully 'out' as a lesbian after saying she is trans/none binary for a couple of years. Get the impression there's less kids saying they are t/nb in her school now.

Snooglequack · 18/06/2024 17:03

My DC are primary and there is unfortunately a definite wave of 'being kind'. A friend of DC came to our house with some toy animals. All with men's names. I said "why no female animals?" And she went on a long explanation about gender fluidity and how David can be a girl's name. This child is 7 so will have got this from her parents.

missmousemouth · 18/06/2024 17:01

There are a few trans kids in my DD's year (13), but they seem to be respectfully tolerated and not taken very seriously at all. Most are also ASD. There is a some eye rolling over the frequent changing of names and pronouns. I asked her how she keeps up and she said "I just tap them on the shoulder" 🤣🤣🤣

I don't think there's much chance of my daughter being pressured into anything, which was what I feared before she went to high school.

HipTightOnions · 18/06/2024 16:58

Thank you DogsAkimbo, you have cheered me up!

Justme56 · 18/06/2024 16:53

https://x.com/snehpetsdrahcir/status/1801175935317573914?s=46&t=ZX_bLozRqm8etdGICMcAvA

This appeared on a Twitter/X a few days ago re a decline in demand for NHS gender services for under 18s. As it says there are caveats (I guess some using private services, etc) but if you have access to X it explains more.

DogsAkimbo · 18/06/2024 16:50

HipTightOnions · 18/06/2024 16:45

Well, we now have our first trans member of staff, which is a whole new can of worms.

That might help, if anything makes something unfashionable it’s when adults are doing it too.

teawamutu · 18/06/2024 16:49

My slight worry is that the demographic most taken by this craze are eventually going to end up running things...

tobee · 18/06/2024 16:47

HipTightOnions · 18/06/2024 16:45

Well, we now have our first trans member of staff, which is a whole new can of worms.

Hmm, indeed

I want to be hopeful and largely am optimistic. But could well be naive.

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HipTightOnions · 18/06/2024 16:45

Well, we now have our first trans member of staff, which is a whole new can of worms.

Querty123456 · 18/06/2024 16:41

Defo agree. Certainly waning at the secondary school I teach at.

Singleandproud · 18/06/2024 16:39

I think once the current year 9s are out of the school system it will all just feel like a bad dream, a bit like lockdown.

StomachAcheAgain · 18/06/2024 16:36

It doesn’t seem very prevalent at my DDs school. For this I am grateful as she is ASD and has already expressed that she thinks she might be gay. This is completely fine but I want her to have the space to contemplate these feelings without it being confused with being transgender.

We live in a pretty poor inner city area . I have always struggled with this and felt guilty that can’t provide my children with a nice peaceful life in a leafy suburb away from drug dealing and knife crime. However I find when it comes to gender woo being in a poor area is a blessing. People have more pressing problems and don’t tend to give time to gender identity. I think it’s more of a ‘luxury belief’? It’s also majority South Asian and most of the families have pretty conservative religious beliefs. Being gay is controversial enough!

Bobbotgegrinch · 18/06/2024 16:27

I'm getting the distinct impression from DD (just finished GCSEs) that being trans and non-binary is seen as a bit eye-rolly these days, and a sign that the person is probably going to be hard work. A couple of years ago that definitely wasn't the case

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