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WOMAN'S HOUR TODAY!

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heldinadream · 18/06/2024 09:12

Today's WH is as follows - Woman's Hour Election Debate. In a special extended 90 minute programme, Nuala McGovern hosts the Woman's Hour Election Debate. Senior women from the main political parties of Great Britain outline their priorities for women and answer your questions. Taking part are: Scottish National Party spokesperson for Consular Affairs and International Engagement Hannah Bardell; Reform UK candidate Maria Bowtell; Green Party spokesperson for Housing and Communities Ellie Chowns; Deputy Leader of the Liberal Democrats Daisy Cooper; Conservative Minister of State for Disabled People, Health and Work Mims Davies; Labour Party Chair and Shadow Secretary for Women and Equalities Anneliese Dodds, and Plaid Cymru’s Westminster Leader Liz Saville Roberts.

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I intend to send something like the following - Given that you are all designated senior women politicians, speaking as such on Woman's Hour, can we possibly decide an answer to the question - What is a woman?

Send in yours!

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WinterTrees · 18/06/2024 10:27

Labour had obviously prepped for this question and she was v aware of the spin she wanted to put on it for WH, but when it came to changes to the GRA she floundered. There's no way of squaring 'simpler process' with proper checks and balances to protect women so she went for a waffly, euphemistic 'kind'.

That tells me all I need to know. They're going to throw women under the bus but while no one's looking, and they're not only going to deny responsibility, but they'll claim it never happened.

No wonder the otherwise loathsome Reform are hoovering up the 'mightily sick of this shit' vote.

TigathaChristie · 18/06/2024 10:27

Fucking patronising Daisy Cooper - us poor folk don't understand.

WarriorN · 18/06/2024 10:27

Labour has Sarah Jones - shadow minister for industry and decarbonisation, so seems an unusual choice

She has spoken with confidence though.

BionicBadger · 18/06/2024 10:26

Reform is the one talking sense. My goodness.

WarriorN · 18/06/2024 10:26

Sarah Jones says that when Scotland tried to do what they did it raised the issue in Labour

Aka

Isla Bryson's pink leggings got our attention

TigathaChristie · 18/06/2024 10:25

Why is McGovern only challenging the Reform woman.

Giving the others a free pass.

TigathaChristie · 18/06/2024 10:25

Reform woman talking sense.

WarriorN · 18/06/2024 10:24

Then bangs on about gender dysphoria

But

Talks about equality act and single sex services

BionicBadger · 18/06/2024 10:24

Ah ok thanks

TigathaChristie · 18/06/2024 10:23

Now SNP "folk don't care". She's an absolute TRA isn't she.

WarriorN · 18/06/2024 10:23

Sarah jones Labour - 'women are an adult female'

'Have a sensible conversation about where there are issues'

123ZYX · 18/06/2024 10:23

Both paraphrased:

Reform - biology is biology. Doesn't mean don't value humans based on what they wear what surgery. Science focus. Wants safe space for girls in school (in toilets)

Lib Dem - vast majority identify with sex at birth. Very small number - not the case. Also deserve respect and dignity. Equality act since 2010. Works well. Protects women, trans women, people with protected characteristics. Provisions for single sex spaces. Provision to exclude men and trans people when legitimate proportional goal. In feel inadequate guidance, can be given. Can't legislate for every scenario. I'd change equality act might clarify some things but might cause confusion in others. Exemptions exist, work well. Small number of people identify as trans and deserve respect. Live and let live. Toxic debate. No conflict between women's and trans rights.

DanceTheDevilBackIntoHisHole · 18/06/2024 10:23

WarriorN · 18/06/2024 10:22

What? Who said adult female? What that Labour ??

Yep. Labour

BionicBadger · 18/06/2024 10:23

I haven’t heard anyone say it. Maybe I missed it amongst all the smoke mirrors avoidance and bullshit. Aaaaaargh.

Redshoeblueshoe · 18/06/2024 10:22

How does she explain Isla Bryson then ?

Nightingalenight · 18/06/2024 10:22

It's emblematic of how the aggressive Trans rights lobby has colonised spaces - this is Woman's Hour and yet the marginalised community being centred is the Trans one. The speakers towards the end realised this but they were all pretty poor in terms of rhetoric.

WarriorN · 18/06/2024 10:22

What? Who said adult female? What that Labour ??

TigathaChristie · 18/06/2024 10:21

Love the way they're all trying to minimise- most people aren't bothered, everything's grand, nothing to see here.

Fucking MUPPETS!!!

WarriorN · 18/06/2024 10:20

I've not turned off yet but thank god for Mims Davies

DanceTheDevilBackIntoHisHole · 18/06/2024 10:20

Labour want legislation to 'be kind'. Good grief.

Redshoeblueshoe · 18/06/2024 10:19

I've only just tuned in, I'm already as the stage that I want to bash my head against the wall

TigathaChristie · 18/06/2024 10:19

Christ on a bike - never thought I would find myself aligning with Reform.

DanceTheDevilBackIntoHisHole · 18/06/2024 10:18

None of them have answered the question. They've talked about women's spaces and rights but no actual answer.

TigathaChristie · 18/06/2024 10:18

@BionicBadger - yes absofuckinglutely!!

They have all started on about Trans - this wasn't the question.

My chances of voting are getting even lower listening to this.

WarriorN · 18/06/2024 10:18

Oh god my blood pressure can't take this. I'm going to listen later on.

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