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Trans TikToker who exposed their breasts at the White House is accused of sexual assault

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NonCrimeHakeIncident · 17/06/2024 22:14

https://reduxx.info/trans-identified-male-who-exposed-his-breasts-at-the-white-house-now-accused-of-sexually-assaulting-another-transgender-person/

By their ex partner, who is FTM trans.

Trans-Identified Male Who Exposed His Breasts At The White House Now Accused Of Sexually Assaulting Another Transgender Person - Reduxx

The trans activist who received criticism for exposing his augmented breasts at the White House during a Pride event last June has now been accused of sexual assault. The alleged victim is a biological female who identifies as a “man.” Rose Montoya, 28...

https://reduxx.info/trans-identified-male-who-exposed-his-breasts-at-the-white-house-now-accused-of-sexually-assaulting-another-transgender-person/

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ArabellaScott · 18/06/2024 21:04

If I understand correctly both accuser and accused work in porn.

TicklishLemur · 18/06/2024 20:38

Helleofabore · 18/06/2024 20:02

These are very brave to raise the alarm. 5! 5! Female trans people! That we know of.

And at least one of them is bravely speaking out within the community to draw attention to this lauded celebrity rapist. Each one will risk their community in doing so.

This is heart breaking. I hope that they receive the support they need to heal.

It is remarkable though, that this rapist knew exactly who is a female when the time to force sex comes about. I read parts of the messages to Diamond. The reasons why this man gave for raping Diamond are a head fuck. It was all about personal power, about forcing their need.

Yes the part about how Diamond was responsible because refusing sex made Montoya’s dysphoria worse was disgusting. Sorry but how can someone who is supposedly distressed about their genitals be perfectly happy to not only to use them for consensual sex but even to rape? Utter nonsense and another example of an AGP using a debilitating mental illness as an excuse.

I remember years back a case of a transwoman holding down and ejaculating inside a transman because he wanted her to ‘birth his non binary babies’. He had form for wanting to impregnate trans-identified females despite how horrifying a concept that is to most of them. He admitted to the rape but made it all about him and how he had been victimised his whole life. Then he implied the victim was a stalker. The victim posted the real text messages where she had simply asked him to pay for her to get HIV PEP and a sexual health appointment, which he had refused as he didn’t ’have the coin’. This same man (Cherno Biko) was invited to speak at Washington Women’s March.

DeanElderberry · 18/06/2024 20:31

It is also yet another reminder of how like closed religious sub-groups this whole set up is - thinking of the vile Marko Rubnik, among others.

Helleofabore · 18/06/2024 20:02

ArabellaScott · 18/06/2024 19:49

Tweet from the person who made the allegations:

'My abuser is a part of the community. Message me so I can fill you in so you can warn others. It’s been confirmed that they’ve abused 4 other trans masc folx besides me since 2020'

I won't link as it's very much NSFW, but there is a link to their X in the original article.

Edited

These are very brave to raise the alarm. 5! 5! Female trans people! That we know of.

And at least one of them is bravely speaking out within the community to draw attention to this lauded celebrity rapist. Each one will risk their community in doing so.

This is heart breaking. I hope that they receive the support they need to heal.

It is remarkable though, that this rapist knew exactly who is a female when the time to force sex comes about. I read parts of the messages to Diamond. The reasons why this man gave for raping Diamond are a head fuck. It was all about personal power, about forcing their need.

TicklishLemur · 18/06/2024 19:54

ArabellaScott · 18/06/2024 19:49

Tweet from the person who made the allegations:

'My abuser is a part of the community. Message me so I can fill you in so you can warn others. It’s been confirmed that they’ve abused 4 other trans masc folx besides me since 2020'

I won't link as it's very much NSFW, but there is a link to their X in the original article.

Edited

So five females have been raped without anyone raising an eyebrow. Yet we hear none stop at the existential threat supposedly posed to trans-identified males.

TicklishLemur · 18/06/2024 19:52

ArabellaScott · 18/06/2024 19:33

Same thing happened with Lily Madigan, accused of sexual assault. The women who'd accused him then closed ranks and defended him rather than risk damaging the cause.

It’s utterly tragic but I do understand how it comes about. These identities are their whole life and their entire support network belongs to the queer/trans community. The thought of being cast out and left with no one when they need support the most is probably unbearable.

I also think it’s unhelpful that Libs of Tik Tok have posted a video of her criticising phalloplasty (in addition to the one about the rapes - this one focuses only on her). Obviously mutilation needs to be discussed but I don’t think it’s appropriate to use a vulnerable rape victim to do that. She has just done something very brave to help protect other transmen and they don’t seem to care about how they will affect her or her choice to speak out.

ArabellaScott · 18/06/2024 19:49

Tweet from the person who made the allegations:

'My abuser is a part of the community. Message me so I can fill you in so you can warn others. It’s been confirmed that they’ve abused 4 other trans masc folx besides me since 2020'

I won't link as it's very much NSFW, but there is a link to their X in the original article.

ArabellaScott · 18/06/2024 19:33

Same thing happened with Lily Madigan, accused of sexual assault. The women who'd accused him then closed ranks and defended him rather than risk damaging the cause.

Helleofabore · 18/06/2024 19:28

Just a note for readers. In the article, it clearly states that the female victim of the rape, Diamond, has met another female person who was abused or assaulted by this same man, Montoya.

She also claimed that she was not the only female who identifies as a “man” that Montoya has abused or assaulted.
“Elijah, the other known victims, and I just want the cycle of abuse to stop,” Diamond wrote on X at the end of her thread.

This rapist is some who has been celebrated at the highest level in the USA.

TicklishLemur · 18/06/2024 19:27

MiddleAgedAndBloodyTired · 18/06/2024 18:26

Oh my goodness raping someone recovering from major surgery. I can’t think of many things more evil than that. Hope the victim has good people in his life to help recover. Why isn’t the rapist in prison already… seems to have done this to a few trans men ?

Probably because the victims have been gaslit into believing the rapist is the vulnerable one. The victim has already deleted some of her posts because the rapist is being ripped apart (quite rightly) by libs of Tik Tok. As always trans-identified males come first despite trans-identified females supposedly having privilege over them. Never seen a single case where a trans man has sexually assaulted a trans woman but there are millions going the other way.

izimbra · 18/06/2024 18:43

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 17/06/2024 22:19

We are told this sort of thing never happens. So when women here come across news reports of exactly this kind of thing happening, i.e. transactivists trying to get rid of single sex services and spaces and bei g accused or convicted of sex offences and violence, these rare events are reported here. Several times a week. Hmm

No we're not.

Toseland · 18/06/2024 18:33

I remember seeing him playing with his new boobs on the White House lawn - it was like the end of civilisation to me!

MiddleAgedAndBloodyTired · 18/06/2024 18:26

Oh my goodness raping someone recovering from major surgery. I can’t think of many things more evil than that. Hope the victim has good people in his life to help recover. Why isn’t the rapist in prison already… seems to have done this to a few trans men ?

Hairyesterdaygonetoday · 18/06/2024 17:03

EdenPalmersTerfAuntie · 18/06/2024 06:36

Why are women talking about rape? Goddess knows! Would you rather we went back to discussing knitting patterns while men usurp everything women have fought for?
Why are you on Mumsnet?

Why are you on Mumsnet?

To try to dominate women. Sooooo unsuccessfully.

Takenoprisoner · 18/06/2024 16:52

thanks both @Hoardasurass and @Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g .

Has this individual been investigated for the alleged rapes of Diamond? What a messed up world we live in, but the tide is definitely turning.

Hoardasurass · 18/06/2024 16:37

Takenoprisoner · 18/06/2024 16:30

please can someone explain to me whether this is a biological female identifying as male? They are dressed as a woman, named Rose and have breasts.

Rose is a biological male who identifies as a transwomen and has had breast implants. Rose is accused of repeatedly raping a biological female who identifies as a transman who was recovering from a phallioplasti (sp) at the time of the alleged rapes

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 18/06/2024 16:34

Rose Montoya is male and has breasts either as a result of surgery or taking oestrogen or both.

Takenoprisoner · 18/06/2024 16:30

please can someone explain to me whether this is a biological female identifying as male? They are dressed as a woman, named Rose and have breasts.

iknke45 · 18/06/2024 16:22

“I was physically incapable of walking the first 10+ times that [he] r*ped me. I couldn’t run away if I tried & I couldn’t afford to stay anywhere else,” Diamond wrote in her Thread on X.

Horrible. Also to think trans females become trans to get away from rape. He obvious knows she's female. Complete evil.

dougalfromthemagicroundabout · 18/06/2024 15:56

ArabellaScott · 18/06/2024 07:38

Because part of feminism is thinking and talking about male violence against women and girls.

Because we already talked about this man, when he was undermining boundaries by indecent exposure. That's a pedestrian, common or garden paraphilia (flashing) and a sex crime that often is a red flag for worse behaviour (see Wayne Couzens).

Because transvestic fetishism was also classed as a paraphilia until a few years ago in the medical literature.

Because this man has been supported, feted and ultimately enabled by the establishment. The government and the.media celebrate this.

This. Well said Arabella.

Let's not forget Wayne Couzens was enabled by being allowed - by the police - to get away with flashing.

When men behave in ways that use unconsenting others as props it's known to be a red flag for later, worse, behaviour.

And being a male with a trans feminine identity shouldn't be a get out of jail card but all too often it literally is.

TicklishLemur · 18/06/2024 15:42

I have seen so many stories of trans-identified females being raped and abused by trans-identified males. They use gender ideology to break down the normal barriers of these young woman and make them think they are protected through identity. There was even one who had had his penis amputated so raped young trans-identified females with his fist instead. Truly sick and evil people preying on vulnerable girls and women, most of whom already come from backgrounds of abuse and trauma.

TicklishLemur · 18/06/2024 15:39

timenowplease · 18/06/2024 07:35

Seems like she kept her vagina.

"I was able to keep all of my original external parts intact the way I was born + get the new appendage. To put it simply: You do NOT necessarily need to surgically cover up the hole if you want a post op pole."

I can’t imagine being raped whilst trying to recover from such a barbaric and agonising surgery. The victim looks relatively strong so I don’t think it is a coincidence that this man waited until she was physically incapacitated to attack her.

Also the disgusting attempt to use gender dysphoria as an excuse. The victim clearly suffers that mental illness since she is willing to put herself through such an awful surgery. The perpetrator does not. Just another man with a fetish, one targeting particularly vulnerable women.

WickedSerious · 18/06/2024 07:46

The list of people who are shocked by this must be quite short.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 18/06/2024 07:42

Surgery of the type this unfortunate young woman mentions should be banned. Surgery on the genitals for psychological reasons, not to fix a medical problem that is affecting health and fertility, is obviously a terrible idea. I've never understood how the US healthcare sector can possibly behave ethically when it's so profit-oriented. The NHS has many problems but in this one respect budget constraints may have been beneficial.

ArabellaScott · 18/06/2024 07:38

shellyleppard · 17/06/2024 22:15

So why is this on Mumsnet???

Because part of feminism is thinking and talking about male violence against women and girls.

Because we already talked about this man, when he was undermining boundaries by indecent exposure. That's a pedestrian, common or garden paraphilia (flashing) and a sex crime that often is a red flag for worse behaviour (see Wayne Couzens).

Because transvestic fetishism was also classed as a paraphilia until a few years ago in the medical literature.

Because this man has been supported, feted and ultimately enabled by the establishment. The government and the.media celebrate this.