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Rosie Duffield and threats

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RedToothBrush · 14/06/2024 17:54

She's pulled out of local hustings because it's not safe for her to attend.

But Don't worry.

Keir Starmer will be along to offer his support to Rosie and condemn these attacks on democracy soon...

Rosie Duffield and threats
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Againname · 15/06/2024 12:55

should think they are, just behind the scenes.
Stuff like this is what Lindsey Hoyle was talking about when he moved the order of voting round for the Gaza vote.

Behind the scenes isn't good enough when it's not safe for her to attend her own hustings.

Has KS come out and said anything in support of Jess Phillips, Stella Creasey or Diane Abbott?

None of them, as far as I'm aware, were in too much danger to attend their hustings?

Need to point out here that Harriet Harman couldn't reply to Rosie. No one can reply to Rosie's original tweet because of the privacy settings.

I don't use twitter but I understand people can do the same as on MN. Quote posts and add a comment? So Harriet could've, if she'd wanted to show support, done that.

ActivePeony · 15/06/2024 12:50

But at what cost to her? She is easily accessible as an MP - look at what recently happened to Farage - and I worry that she will get hurt. She is amazing but I do think that she is trapped in an abusive relationship with Labour.

illinivich · 15/06/2024 12:46

I think shes doing the right thing by staying. There are people who want to bully her away from standing for labour and being an MP at all, so she needs to stand her ground, otherwise theyll do it to every women who speaks out.

TheAltProfessorAleksSubicofAstonUniversity · 15/06/2024 12:31

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BezMills · 15/06/2024 11:41

She's a champ for staying in the party, despite the hostility tacitly condoned all the way to the top

Floisme · 15/06/2024 11:40

Oh I would walk too, but I still think that by staying, she's shining a light on it all that she wouldn't be able to do as well once outside. I admire that but I do worry for her.

ActivePeony · 15/06/2024 11:37

Floisme · 15/06/2024 11:33

I'm torn on this one. Part of me is yelling, 'Get out Rosie, get out now!'. On the other hand I do think that the best way she can highlight Labour's incoherence and intolerance is by staying.

But that's really hypocritical of me because nothing on earth would induce me to go back and deal with those tossers again (and I was just a nobody from nowhere town).

I'm sure the abuse combined with the lack of support from within - which she's talked about, e.g. in the Times interview - must be taking a terrible toll and I worry for her.

I feel the same but I honestly think that at this point I would walk. Enough now.

Starmer's words on VAWG are sounding very hollow this morning.

Floisme · 15/06/2024 11:33

luckylavender · 15/06/2024 08:26

I'm not exactly sure why Rosie Duffield is still in the Labour Party if I'm honest.

I'm torn on this one. Part of me is yelling, 'Get out Rosie, get out now!'. On the other hand I do think that the best way she can highlight Labour's incoherence and intolerance is by staying.

But that's really hypocritical of me because nothing on earth would induce me to go back and deal with those tossers again (and I was just a nobody from nowhere town).

I'm sure the abuse combined with the lack of support from within - which she's talked about, e.g. in the Times interview - must be taking a terrible toll and I worry for her.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 15/06/2024 11:23

WhodoVoodoo · 15/06/2024 10:57

Gosh I wish there was a way of filtering out nonsense.

I wish there was a way of filtering out certain posters.

CassieMaddox · 15/06/2024 11:16

WhodoVoodoo · 15/06/2024 10:57

Gosh I wish there was a way of filtering out nonsense.

The nonsense of pointing out the horrendous abuse and risk that all politicians expose themselves to every day in their public service? OK

borntobequiet · 15/06/2024 11:05

I should think they are, just behind the scenes.

Everything she has said or written (often linked to on these threads, so easy to find or Google if anyone wants to) says exactly the opposite - that there has been no support whatsoever, except perhaps recently, and not particularly strongly, from Wes Streeting.

TheAltProfessorAleksSubicofAstonUniversity · 15/06/2024 10:59

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WhodoVoodoo · 15/06/2024 10:57

Gosh I wish there was a way of filtering out nonsense.

CassieMaddox · 15/06/2024 10:53

drwitch · 15/06/2024 08:20

I don't know why you think a woman who would write an article like that would be contributing to violent death threats. I thought it was quite a clear and logical setting out of the Authors position. We do have freedom of speech so she's entirely within her rights to publish it.

CassieMaddox · 15/06/2024 10:50

The "friends of Israel" thing is the reason Jess Phillips has been getting threats as well.

CassieMaddox · 15/06/2024 10:46

Againname · 15/06/2024 01:17

Regardless of who and why, the question is why isn't her party supporting her? Surely if one of your MPs or candidates is being threatened and abused, they should be supported by their colleagues and the party leader?

I don't know much about this (saw it in Active) but from what I've seen on this thread she should have the same protection as Nigel Farage. But also support from her party.

I don't want to sound harsh. I'm tired and perhaps being a bit mean but I feel like I'd respect her more if at this stage she left and stood as an Independent. I assume though it's too late to do that before the GE? Maybe she can do that afterwards if she wins. She's been treated appallingly by her party. Whatever people's views on any issues, a candidate or MP shouldn't be unable to attend hustings or other campaign events due to risk to their safety.

I should think they are, just behind the scenes.
Stuff like this is what Lindsey Hoyle was talking about when he moved the order of voting round for the Gaza vote.
Has KS come out and said anything in support of Jess Phillips, Stella Creasey or Diane Abbott?
Heidi Allen left politics over this kind of abuse. Jo Cox and David Amess lost their lives over it. It is horrendous, its horrendous for Duffield. I'm just saying it may not be as simple as she is being targeted for being GC - it seems to be part and parcel of being in politics these days, especially if you are female.

BezMills · 15/06/2024 10:03

AlisonDonut · 15/06/2024 09:06

Almost like some sort of two-tier policing thing going on.

Weird huh?

Yep, too much fear and favour

AlisonDonut · 15/06/2024 09:06

BezMills · 15/06/2024 08:59

Rosie must take care of her safety first, and I expect the police to take this more seriously.

You can easily see the double standards between the way the law has treated KJK and CF whereas the cowards threatening female politicians and candidates are acting with complete impunity.

The Labour leadership are sadly and predictably a letdown. Again.

Almost like some sort of two-tier policing thing going on.

Weird huh?

borntobequiet · 15/06/2024 09:03

This is my complaint to the BBC:

This article is about a Labour candidate feeling unsafe at public hustings as a result of well-documented abuse (including threats of physical violence) as a result of her views on sex and gender. This is the story - that she is not safe. The title should reflect that. As it stands, it tells the reader very little.

I suggest that you change the title to ‘Labour candidate Rosie Duffield “not safe” at hustings.’ This is the shocking truth that your audience needs to know.

(The current title is just “Labour candidate Rosie Duffield cancels hustings”. To be fair, the actual article is good.)

EmpressaurusDeiGatti · 15/06/2024 09:03

Can people quote Rosie’s tweet, tag their local Labour candidates & ask how they’re going to support her?

BezMills · 15/06/2024 08:59

Rosie must take care of her safety first, and I expect the police to take this more seriously.

You can easily see the double standards between the way the law has treated KJK and CF whereas the cowards threatening female politicians and candidates are acting with complete impunity.

The Labour leadership are sadly and predictably a letdown. Again.

drwitch · 15/06/2024 08:57

@OldCrone early on (before she came out as GC) she went on the enough is enough march to protest about antisemitism in the labour party -there was then most of a CLP meeting devoted to how problematic this was. But quite a lot of the people involved have now left labour

FrancescaContini · 15/06/2024 08:54

luckylavender · 15/06/2024 08:26

I'm not exactly sure why Rosie Duffield is still in the Labour Party if I'm honest.

I’ve often wondered this too.

💐 for you, Rosie, if you’re here.

RedToothBrush · 15/06/2024 08:50

Violetparis · 14/06/2024 23:06

Harriet Harman has replied to Jess's tweet with sympathy but nothing on Rosie's. Sarah Champion has tweeted in support of Rosie but not seen anything from other Labour MPs.

Need to point out here that Harriet Harman couldn't reply to Rosie.

No one can reply to Rosie's original tweet because of the privacy settings.

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