Rosie Duffield and threats

Our best bet is to have Wes Streeting as the next health minister and have the likes of us, journalists and politicians such as Kemi B. hold the government's feet to the fire

Yes I agree. Streeting at least seems to have seen the light (after his shennanigans with bloody Lily Madigan and the gender critical hit list) and is making a great deal of sense on this - I am glad he is in the LP.

Streeting seems (now) sensible on gender and honest and increasingly Starmer seems neither of these. I suspect that Streeting is an ambitious man - he speaks well, he knows the power of a proper apology and he seems to have turned a corner in his thinking.

He is far more impressive as a politician than Starmer who needs to watch his back I think. Rayner may think that she's next in line but I think Streeting has far more of a chance.

It's a hell of a turnaround for streeting, but it does seem like he actually understands the issues and it's more than just a performative nod to the direction of public opinion.

Thank you @fromorbit - my knowledge of the House of Lords is woeful.

Is Wes Streeting about to become our most vocal gender critical Cabinet Minister? What a strange old world this is. But, if he's decided it's a good career move then that is comforting to know.

He was, I had a lot of time for cashman back then but he is just a nasty misogynist now

BTW did anyone notice he doesn't name Rosie in his apology instead he says the 'Labour candidate for Canterbury'

They can't.

It doesn't make any sense. Which is why the attempt to pass a conversion therapy ban will be a huge drama. Because Gender fanatics deny science and safeguarding and go against the now standard medical advice.

Dr Lade Smith CBE, President of the Royal College of Psychiatrists, said:
“We welcome the final report of The Cass Review and the involvement throughout of those with lived experience, their families and healthcare professionals in its development. It is a comprehensive and evidence-based assessment that needs to be acted upon with a fully resourced implementation plan.

“The review directly impacts on the healthcare needs of a vulnerable group of children and young people who are questioning their gender identity or experiencing gender dysphoria, and have had difficulty getting the support they need when accessing services in England. Many young people may be left wondering what services they will have in future and when the recommendations will be acted on. It is crucial that in the future development of services they have access to a comprehensive biopsychosocial approach tailored to meet their individual needs, including the development of an individualised care plan that takes account of their wishes and preferences.

“The best interests of children and young people seeking support must be at the heart of services provided. Clinicians should not allow their own personal views to influence the care they provide in line with the standards set out by the General Medical Council (GMC) in Good Medical Practice.
https://www.rcpsych.ac.uk/news-and-features/latest-news/detail/2024/04/22/detailed-response-to-the-cass-review's-final-report

I think when they try to draft the bill they will realise how screwed this all is and how it will never work.

PronounssheRa · Today 08:13

Michael Cashman, Labour peer replying to Victoria Derbyshire

https://x.com/MCleaver/status/1802264916482507259

I'm surprised Cashman said frit, it was something of a Thatcherism.

I vaguely remember Cashman being a bold campaigner for gay rights, back in the day. He used to be an actor, didn't he? What an unpleasant man he's turned into. Starmer's silence over RD is unconscionable.

We will implement the Cass Review but then criminalise all the doctors under the Conversion Therapy ban. 🤔

@fromorbit @BackToLurk

Thanks. Don't know how they plan to square the circle, conversion ban v Cass.

Sorry, I couldn't find it - can you link please? Thanks.

It is in the manifesto though:

We will work to implement the expert recommendations of the Cass Review to ensure that young people presenting to the NHS with gender dysphoria are receiving appropriate and high-quality care.
p.100 Labour manifesto
https://labour.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/Change-Labour-Party-Manifesto-2024-large-print.pdf

There is an internal battle amongst the Labour cabinet over this. Along with a plan for conversion therapy ban alongside supporting Cass is a massive contradiction. There are those who want do gender stuff and those who don't. As you say Streeting is now a sceptic. Not because he is lovely, but because TRA stuff is so stupid it alienates people who used to back it. So if we kick up enough fuss, initiate enough court cases we can fight back successfully as in Scotland. It won't be easy, getting women vote wasn't easy, getting women into professional obs wasn't easy, but it can be done.

Getting Rosie re-elected is part of that fightback.

For what it's worth, when asking ChatGPT what Labour's manifesto says about the Cass Report, it suggests it commits to implementing it in full.

It is in the manifesto

If Labour was going to implement Cass, why is it not in the manifesto? There is a reason why Starmer is not sticking his neck out on this issue but it is no excuse for not protecting Rosie D. That is inexcusable and the silence is deafening.

After the election, Starmer will be saying that Cass was not in the manifesto but that a ban of trans conversion therapy, was. Go figure, wake up and smell the coffee. He is not being woolly, he is being disingenuous.

Our best bet is to have Wes Streeting as the next health minister and have the likes of us, journalists and politicians such as Kemi B. hold the government's feet to the fire.

He can be suspended or expelled from the party.

If you see anyone inside Labour slagging off Rosie report them. She is a Labour candidate for election who is not breaking party rules. Attacking her is harassment/bullying and sexism plus campaigning against the party. During an election campaign they are suspending people all over the place because they are paranoid over looking bad.

You can report members for the following [many TRAs are guilty of a multiple counts of these breaches of party rules]:

A member has discriminated against someone on the basis of that person’s protected characteristic(s)
• A member has bullied, harassed, and/or intimidated someone
• A member has sexually harassed someone
• A member has exhibited clear racist behaviour or has incited racism, including antisemitism and/or Islamophobia
• A member has exhibited clear homophobic, sexist and/or transphobic behaviour
• A member has harassed, intimidated and/or otherwise abused someone/people online (for example, via social media)
• A member has openly campaigned against the Labour Party
• A member has engaged in criminal activity

Remember they are reporting people for knowing biology all the time.

Time to strike back. Take Screenshots, report them.

That's very positive. He's going to be very influential in government and if he's one of the insightful and ethical gay men who can see the issues about transing away young gay men and lesbians and the harm of all this, then I'll acknowledge that.
He's gone much further than most labour politicians in recognising and acknowledging the harm caused by uttering TWAW and openly apologised for the awful treatment of women. He's under attack from the trans extremists and I'd hate them to be successful.

I'm glad he's prepared to actually acknowledge and answer these important questions now rather than just say he doesn't want to get embroiled in culture wars. Starmer's silence is unforgivable though. On a day where he acknowledges the words of the late Jo Cox he can't bring himself to support Rosie Duffield.

It’s taken him a very very long time to speak out on the issue, though.

Wes Streeting was just on Times Radio and condemned the Cashman comments and was very supportive of Rosie Duffield 'and all politicians facing threats'.
He was also explicit about the conflict between the Cass report and conversion therapy. Proper holistic exploratory therapies were not conversion therapy and the Labour Party would be fully implementing Cass.
I hope he really gets it.

Starmer The Spineless.

Hopefully Victoria Derbyshire will pick this up and others in the media. Labour candidates doing the media rounds need to be asked about this on TV/radio.

Thank you, I’ve complained.

Thanks @Imnobody4 - so effectively he would remain a peer but wouldn't have the party endorsement?