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Rosie Duffield and threats

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RedToothBrush · 14/06/2024 17:54

She's pulled out of local hustings because it's not safe for her to attend.

But Don't worry.

Keir Starmer will be along to offer his support to Rosie and condemn these attacks on democracy soon...

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Maaate · 16/06/2024 19:42

Seems to be open season on Rosie now.

Well done Keir slow handicap

mrshoho · 16/06/2024 18:59

fromorbit · 16/06/2024 18:40

Anyone doing complaints here is another anti-woman one from a Labour councilor:

Rhys Goode Labour Co-op Cllr BridgendCBC |

https://x.com/rhys_goode/status/1802356987620905311

Just to say, I hadn’t seen Lord Cashman’s earlier tweet and I don’t agree with it…however, I still don’t believe our candidate for Canterbury should be a labour candidate. Sorry, if you don’t like that

That is breaking party rules. If you are in the party you don't undermine any candidates in public statements.

Thanks I've complained about both.

PronounssheRa · 16/06/2024 18:59

And another Labour councillor geeing rhys on

https://x.com/CllrStephanieG/status/1802275015569604632

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https://x.com/CllrStephanieG/status/1802275015569604632

Maaate · 16/06/2024 18:56

He seems nice...

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PronounssheRa · 16/06/2024 18:52

Rhys Goode put the boot into Rosie by saying that cashman didnt need to apologise without even knowing what cashman had tweeted. In his follow up he undermines a Labour candidate

What an idiot.

fromorbit · 16/06/2024 18:40

Anyone doing complaints here is another anti-woman one from a Labour councilor:

Rhys Goode Labour Co-op Cllr BridgendCBC |

https://x.com/rhys_goode/status/1802356987620905311

Just to say, I hadn’t seen Lord Cashman’s earlier tweet and I don’t agree with it…however, I still don’t believe our candidate for Canterbury should be a labour candidate. Sorry, if you don’t like that

That is breaking party rules. If you are in the party you don't undermine any candidates in public statements.

Rosie Duffield and threats
Violetparis · 16/06/2024 18:35

Cashman's tweets are being reported in The Guardian, Mail, Standard. Hopefully more will be discussed in the media tomorrow and Labour candidates other than Wes Streeting will be asked about it.

fromorbit · 16/06/2024 18:33

Streeting's intervention is getting press

Rosie Duffield ‘frit or lazy’ criticism extremely unfair, says Wes Streeting
Wes Streeting has criticised Lord Cashman, who made the comment about Labour candidate Rosie Duffield after she cancelled a local hustings.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/rosie-duffield-wes-streeting-kemi-badenoch-nigel-farage-canterbury-b1164685.html

Starmer is being interviewed all the time so countdown is on till someone asks him about this.

Rosie Duffield ‘frit or lazy’ criticism extremely unfair, says Wes Streeting

Wes Streeting has criticised Lord Cashman, who made the comment about Labour candidate Rosie Duffield after she cancelled a local hustings.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/rosie-duffield-wes-streeting-kemi-badenoch-nigel-farage-canterbury-b1164685.html

UtopiaPlanitia · 16/06/2024 18:00

PronounssheRa · 16/06/2024 16:57

And by leaving it so long, he has let the situation get out of hand. Labour supporters and members and Labour peers are openly abusing women because senior people in Labour haven't drawn a line in the sand and said it's unacceptable.

Yes, as the saying goes, 'a fish rots from the head'. Organisational culture is set from the top level so if Starmer and his coterie are treating Duffield with disdain, and refusing to condemn or punish bad behaviour towards her, it’s no bloody wonder that those at lower levels in the Labour Party are following his lead.

BettyFilous · 16/06/2024 17:35

What a callous, spiteful post by Cashman.

Dame Katy Denise nails it in her Twix response to Cashman’s mealy-mouthed non-apology.

Signalbox · 16/06/2024 17:10

Personally I think Streeting is showing Starmer up here.

Starmer could easily put out a statement that Labour will not stand for intimidation and bullying of his MPs. By not doing so he’s making himself look weak.

PronounssheRa · 16/06/2024 16:57

And by leaving it so long, he has let the situation get out of hand. Labour supporters and members and Labour peers are openly abusing women because senior people in Labour haven't drawn a line in the sand and said it's unacceptable.

PronounssheRa · 16/06/2024 16:51

RoyalCorgi · 16/06/2024 16:36

I don't get why Starmer doesn't stand up for Rosie. How hard can it be to say"I won't tolerate members of the Labour Party bullying Labour MPs and Labour candidates. Any Labour party member who engages in threats and bullying will be expelled." It makes him look so weak and cowardly that he won't do this.

He is either a coward, doesn't care, or agrees with the people abusing Rosie. I can't fathom any other reason.

His silence is shameful.

UtopiaPlanitia · 16/06/2024 16:42

RoyalCorgi · 16/06/2024 16:36

I don't get why Starmer doesn't stand up for Rosie. How hard can it be to say"I won't tolerate members of the Labour Party bullying Labour MPs and Labour candidates. Any Labour party member who engages in threats and bullying will be expelled." It makes him look so weak and cowardly that he won't do this.

It also makes him look like he dislikes or disapproves of her. It’s happened so often now that it looks personal.

Maaate · 16/06/2024 16:41

RoyalCorgi · 16/06/2024 16:36

I don't get why Starmer doesn't stand up for Rosie. How hard can it be to say"I won't tolerate members of the Labour Party bullying Labour MPs and Labour candidates. Any Labour party member who engages in threats and bullying will be expelled." It makes him look so weak and cowardly that he won't do this.

God forbid anything does happen, how much of a callous shitbag would he look for not even acknowledging the threats and intimidation.

It just boggles the mind that he continues to ignore it.

RoyalCorgi · 16/06/2024 16:36

I don't get why Starmer doesn't stand up for Rosie. How hard can it be to say"I won't tolerate members of the Labour Party bullying Labour MPs and Labour candidates. Any Labour party member who engages in threats and bullying will be expelled." It makes him look so weak and cowardly that he won't do this.

Floisme · 16/06/2024 15:08

Yes it'll certainly be interesting to see whether or not he gets the Health brief. The same applies to Women and Equalities. I think I've read somewhere (Janice Turner's article possibly?) that Dodds isn't likely to be in the frame.

RedToothBrush · 16/06/2024 13:46

Floisme · 16/06/2024 13:40

I appreciate Streeting's interventions while not entirely trusting him. But I'd still rather see him as Minister for Health than just about anyone else in the (now dissolved) shadow cabinet.

As for Starmer - whenever I get really annoyed with him, I remind myself that the two other contestants in the final round of the leadership election were Rebecca Long-Bailey and Lisa Nandy. While I don't think that means he should be let off the hook in any way, I do believe things could have gone a lot worse.

Yes, whether he will continue to fight if he gets moved from Health would be an interesting thought. Theres no guarentee thats what he'd get in government. Moving him from Health could be an attempt to kill off the subject.

He also has to earn back that trust. Some of us still haven't seen the apology over the Lily Madigan saga which really formed the start of the rot on the subject within the Labour Party and set the course for the years since.

Streeting has a lot of damage to undo before his words start to feel like more than empty promises.

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Floisme · 16/06/2024 13:40

I appreciate Streeting's interventions while not entirely trusting him. But I'd still rather see him as Minister for Health than just about anyone else in the (now dissolved) shadow cabinet.

As for Starmer - whenever I get really annoyed with him, I remind myself that the two other contestants in the final round of the leadership election were Rebecca Long-Bailey and Lisa Nandy. While I don't think that means he should be let off the hook in any way, I do believe things could have gone a lot worse.

LizzieSiddal · 16/06/2024 13:33

I really have grown to like Streeting. He doesn’t shy away from saying he was wrong about women’s rights. I hope he doesn’t let us down.

RoyalCorgi · 16/06/2024 13:30

I am willing to believe that Wes Streeting has come to genuinely understand the issues, iirc he’s engaged with quite a few small GC orgs working in various policy areas (Gay Men’s Network, Safe Schools Alliance?)

I hope so. But even if he is doing it for the most cynical of reasons - namely that he thinks it's a vote winner - that in its own way is encouraging, in the sense that he thinks popular sentiment is pro-women's rights. (And this is borne out by opinion polls, of course.)

TheAltProfessorAleksSubicofAstonUniversity · 16/06/2024 12:42

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ActivePeony · 16/06/2024 12:39

PronounssheRa · 16/06/2024 12:32

It's a hell of a turnaround for streeting, but it does seem like he actually understands the issues and it's more than just a performative nod to the direction of public opinion.

Yes I agree and thank god for that. Starmer though...🙄

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