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Rosie Duffield and threats

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RedToothBrush · 14/06/2024 17:54

She's pulled out of local hustings because it's not safe for her to attend.

But Don't worry.

Keir Starmer will be along to offer his support to Rosie and condemn these attacks on democracy soon...

Rosie Duffield and threats
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Midgegreenstreet · 17/06/2024 14:38

One wonders whether KS would have bothered to say anything if Cashman hadn't been a twat and his hand forced.

I'm still yet to be convinced Starmer is anything more than an obfuscating coward but I hope to be proved wrong.

lonelywater · 17/06/2024 14:35

SinnerBoy · 17/06/2024 04:36

Ah... Gwen Troake was the lady FC was disparaging about.

Yes, and the incident utterly trashed Fanny Cradocks career-never seen on telly ever again.

lonelywater · 17/06/2024 14:34

Having the whip withdrawn. What does that add up too? being docked a weeks pocket money or something rather more than that?

Floisme · 17/06/2024 14:16

fromorbit · 17/06/2024 13:57

Kier speaks:

Sir Keir Starmer said that Lord Cashman’s comments were “totally inappropriate”.
He added: “That’s why it was important that the whip was withdrawn as it was very swiftly.”
Lord Cashman had the whip suspended on Sunday, The Telegraph understands.

Telegraph - Labour peer who branded candidate ‘frit or lazy’ loses whip
Michael Cashman made the jibe after Rosie Duffield said she would not be attending hustings over safety concerns
https://archive.ph/g3xWv#selection-2519.4-2523.116

Thank you, I'm very, very pleased that Starmer has spoken up and delighted to be wrong.

I really hope these are the early shoots of a fresh start. Whether I vote for them myself or not, Labour are odds on to form the next government and it would have been intolerable if they had let this go or tried to deal with it on the quiet.

duc748 · 17/06/2024 13:59

Of course, if KS had stood up for Rosie all along, he'd be able to take the moral high ground now. But as he didn't...

fromorbit · 17/06/2024 13:57

Kier speaks:

Sir Keir Starmer said that Lord Cashman’s comments were “totally inappropriate”.
He added: “That’s why it was important that the whip was withdrawn as it was very swiftly.”
Lord Cashman had the whip suspended on Sunday, The Telegraph understands.

Telegraph - Labour peer who branded candidate ‘frit or lazy’ loses whip
Michael Cashman made the jibe after Rosie Duffield said she would not be attending hustings over safety concerns
https://archive.ph/g3xWv#selection-2519.4-2523.116

fromorbit · 17/06/2024 13:41

Its confirmed.

Michael Cashman’s attack on Rosie Duffield costs him the Labour whip -Labour list
https://labourlist.org/2024/06/rosie-duffield-michael-cashman-trans-women-rights-hustings/

Labour Lord suspended after 'lazy or frit' comment about Rosie Duffield who cancelled debates over trolling - Evening Standard

Rosie Duffield, who is fighting to retain the Canterbury seat for Labour, has been a defender of women’s rights and female-only spaces
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/labour-rosie-duffield-canterbury-michael-cashman-suspended-lazy-b1164872.html

Starmer is going to get asked. I suspect he will say similar to Rayner. However what Starmer says is not the most important thing here.

The significant thing is that sexist TRA nonsense has been openly punished for the first time. The TRAs inside Labour are facing a new world. This doesn't mean the fight is over, but it is now a level playing field.

When competition is fair and about truth the TRAs can't compete. They can only win when it is rigged or they can lie. The fight inside Labour has a long way to go, but we have a fighting chance now and Gender crits will only get stronger.

Thanks Rosie and everyone who stood up for her.

Michael Cashman’s attack on Rosie Duffield costs him the Labour whip – LabourList

The peer and Stonewall co-founder Michael Cashman has had the Labour whip suspended for calling Rosie Duffield "frit or lazy" for pulling out of a…

https://labourlist.org/2024/06/rosie-duffield-michael-cashman-trans-women-rights-hustings

Floisme · 17/06/2024 13:41

Thank you.
I see it says, 'Labour is yet to issue a public statement'
Hopefully they will very soon.

duc748 · 17/06/2024 13:35

Floisme · 17/06/2024 13:03

Ha! Although in this case, I'm afraid my money's on frit.

Come on Keir, there's still time to prove me wrong.

Should know by now, KS never misses an opportunity to disappoint! 😀

BackToLurk · 17/06/2024 13:30

Floisme · 17/06/2024 12:54

Sonia Sodha, who I normally find takes great care to report accurately, has twixed:

'NEW: Labour have just confirmed to me that Labour peer Lord Cashman had the whip suspended yesterday.'
https://x.com/soniasodha/status/1802668088673865946

Good. And now a public announcement please, Sir Keir, otherwise I'm going to assume you're too frit.

Confirmed Labour List

https://labourlist.org/2024/06/rosie-duffield-michael-cashman-trans-women-rights-hustings/

Michael Cashman’s attack on Rosie Duffield costs him the Labour whip – LabourList

The peer and Stonewall co-founder Michael Cashman has had the Labour whip suspended for calling Rosie Duffield "frit or lazy" for pulling out of a…

https://labourlist.org/2024/06/rosie-duffield-michael-cashman-trans-women-rights-hustings

WickedSerious · 17/06/2024 13:07

Floisme · 17/06/2024 13:03

Ha! Although in this case, I'm afraid my money's on frit.

Come on Keir, there's still time to prove me wrong.

I'm going to recreate Buckingham Palace out of matchsticks while we wait.

Floisme · 17/06/2024 13:03

Signalbox · 17/06/2024 12:56

Or Lazy 😂

Ha! Although in this case, I'm afraid my money's on frit.

Come on Keir, there's still time to prove me wrong.

Signalbox · 17/06/2024 12:56

Floisme · 17/06/2024 12:54

Sonia Sodha, who I normally find takes great care to report accurately, has twixed:

'NEW: Labour have just confirmed to me that Labour peer Lord Cashman had the whip suspended yesterday.'
https://x.com/soniasodha/status/1802668088673865946

Good. And now a public announcement please, Sir Keir, otherwise I'm going to assume you're too frit.

Or Lazy 😂

Floisme · 17/06/2024 12:54

Sonia Sodha, who I normally find takes great care to report accurately, has twixed:

'NEW: Labour have just confirmed to me that Labour peer Lord Cashman had the whip suspended yesterday.'
https://x.com/soniasodha/status/1802668088673865946

Good. And now a public announcement please, Sir Keir, otherwise I'm going to assume you're too frit.

x.com

https://x.com/soniasodha/status/1802668088673865946

SinnerBoy · 17/06/2024 11:09

nauticant · Today 09:19

A most enjoyable Community Note has been added to Cashman's apology tweet:

Thanks, I rated it.

PronounssheRa · 17/06/2024 11:06

Signalbox · 17/06/2024 08:27

Sorry if posted already but apparently Labour have “quietly” removed Cashman’s name from the list of Labour Peers.

https://x.com/JaneSymons1/status/1802598284667535825

According to twitter he was removed in February so not in response to his recent behaviour

I'm assuming it's an error

Rosie Duffield and threats
lcakethereforeIam · 17/06/2024 10:23

Cashman seems a twat of the first water but he's just a sympton, Starmer needs to step up and speak out.

Caoilinm · 17/06/2024 10:02

I absolutely agree!
I have contributed to her campaign fund… still time…. I am also planning to go canvassing for her since I admire her so much! She is SO COURAGEOUS. A chap called mullane was convicted of threats against her and jk Rowling.
if want to donate screener to support rosie duffield, you can go to her campaign fund.’ Rosie duffield campaign fund’, to express solidarity ! I hope she gets re-elected.

nauticant · 17/06/2024 09:49

Readers added context they thought people might want to know

Lord Cashman fails to name Rosie Duffield and does not specify which tweet he is apologising for — he has made a number of posts attacking Ms Duffield.
^x.com/mcashmanCBE/status/1802106668286914945^
^x.com/mcashmanCBE/status/1641914892079824896^

OldCrone · 17/06/2024 09:40

nauticant · 17/06/2024 09:19

A most enjoyable Community Note has been added to Cashman's apology tweet:

https://x.com/mcashmanCBE/status/1802252499052580904

I can't see it. What does it say?

nauticant · 17/06/2024 09:32

It's part of Labour's Ming vase strategy in the run-up to the election. Avoid doing anything but if something has to be done, then do the absolute minimum. No bold moves.

Signalbox · 17/06/2024 09:27

Surely they can't remove the whip and just keep their fingers crossed that nobody picks up on it? Does anyone know how the process works? If the Whip is removed would that process involve approval from KS?

nauticant · 17/06/2024 09:19

A most enjoyable Community Note has been added to Cashman's apology tweet:

https://x.com/mcashmanCBE/status/1802252499052580904

BloodyHellKenAgain · 17/06/2024 09:07

If the Labour Party can't support their own female MPs over this issue when they're on the charm offensive, trying to secure votes, then what hope is there for Labour support once they've won the election?
I think they'll throw women and child safe guarding under the bus.

Floisme · 17/06/2024 09:03

If it's correct that Labour have removed the whip from Cashman then that's good news I'm very pleased to hear it. I assume they will make it public though? I bloody hope so because, If they don't, they'll look like they're embarrassed to be seen doing the right thing.

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