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Reform candidate's comments on women

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ArabellaScott · 10/06/2024 16:38

Reform hasn't been discussed much on this board, but it's polling quite high ...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjmmrwexv4ko

'Ian Gribbin, the party's candidate in Bexhill and Battle, also wrote online that women were the "sponging gender" and should be "deprived of health care".
In posts from 2022 on the Unherd magazine website, seen by the BBC, he said Winston Churchill was "abysmal" and praised Russian President Vladimir Putin.
A Reform spokesman said the comments were not "endorsements" but "written with an eye to inconvenient perspectives and truths", while his remarks about women were "tongue in cheek".
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... he criticised women, writing on the site’s message board: "Do you think you could actually work and pay for it all too like good citizens?
"Men pay 80% of tax – women spend 80% of tax revenue. On aggregate as a group you only take from society.
"Less complaining please from the 'sponging gender'."
He added that women are "subsidised by men to merely breath (sic)".
In January 2022 he posted: "Men pay 80% of tax. Women take out 80% of expenditures.
"Square that inequality first by depriving women of healthcare until their life expectancies are the same as men, Fair’s fair."
In December 2021 he wrote female soldiers "almost made me wretch (sic)" and were a "total liability".'

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Reform candidate said UK should have been neutral against Hitler

The party says the comments were not "endorsements" but "written with an eye to inconvenient perspectives".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjmmrwexv4ko

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Ramblingnamechanger · 22/06/2024 17:49

Was he at the hustings with Julia the other day?

IwantToRetire · 20/06/2024 01:45

Hepwo · 20/06/2024 01:35

I have a hunch that reform will pull out at the last minute and ask their voters to get behind Kemi Badenoch as the next PM

You heard it hear first!

According to the Telegraph:

In total 21 of the 27 members of the Cabinet who are standing at the election would be ousted. Kemi Badenoch, the Business Secretary, would be the highest profile of six survivors.
https://archive.ph/E5qZR

I suspect if she does survive she will just be bored with nothing to do!

Hepwo · 20/06/2024 01:39

If he'd said UPF instead of tinned food he'd have every food snob lined up to agree with him.

Hepwo · 20/06/2024 01:37

I do agree with him on this

Our government is itself being governed by recalcitrant civil servants, bankers (the markets), globalists, non-elected organisations such as the WEF and WHO, the Media, the EU, big business, lobbyists [sic], the list goes on,” it reads.

Hepwo · 20/06/2024 01:35

I have a hunch that reform will pull out at the last minute and ask their voters to get behind Kemi Badenoch as the next PM

You heard it hear first!

IwantToRetire · 20/06/2024 01:17

lcakethereforeIam · 19/06/2024 23:30

I didn't want to start a new thread, so I'm leaving this here if anyone wants to read it

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/06/19/reform-uk-candidate-suggested-tinned-food-could-cause-gende/

https://archive.ph/Cz0dH I think this wall should be padded

I put in a can, but I'd probably get reported.

The whole article is a delight.

But on one level I wish reporters were this interested in being this interested in candidates' strange ideas.

Am off to consult with my cats about the impact of my feeding them tinned food!

RubyTrees · 11/06/2024 20:03

I will be voting for Julia Long but I’ve used Maya’s template to write to this charmer. In the unlikely event that I get a reply I shall post it here!

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fedupandstuck · 11/06/2024 18:35

Of course the context makes it absolutely fine Confused. It's totally fine to make insanely misogynist statements about women if you're being ironic.

Do you not think that all the detail and repeated use of the term "spongers" goes beyond an attempt at an "ironic" quip with women as the butt of the quip. That quip also assumes that you agree that women in general don't pay tax, otherwise the comment doesn't work.

What if he'd made a really racist or homophobic quip instead? Still ok in context, or not?

Taciturn · 11/06/2024 18:22

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 10/06/2024 20:10

he criticised women, writing on the site’s message board: "Do you think you could actually work and pay for it all too like good citizens?

I'd like to know in that case what the fuck it was being deducted from my salary every month 1975-2021 by the taxman if it wasn't my working and paying like a good citizen.

stupid arse.

while his remarks about women were "tongue in cheek"

Oh right. Only joking. Just the fault of us silly women taking him seriously.

Tosser.

My understanding was that this was in response to a number of people insisting that those unvaccinated (from covid) should be denied healthcare - a topical item at the time. So not an ideal response but certainly supposed to be ironic, yet it's been quoted verbatim without context.

WickedSerious · 11/06/2024 18:16

Redshoeblueshoe · 10/06/2024 17:30

I was just about to post that. I'd pay good money to see him v Julia Long

I'd empty my ban account to see that.

TheColourOutOfSpace · 11/06/2024 09:40

terryleather · 11/06/2024 09:37

In a world full of sparkly genderist misogyny, it's almost comforting to see an old skool sexist. Almost.

Ha! Snap... Great minds and all that.

TheColourOutOfSpace · 11/06/2024 09:40

It's kind of charming in a way.... He sounds like a regular sexist nutjob. The ones you can properly point and laugh at without being charged for a hate crime.... I've missed them.

terryleather · 11/06/2024 09:37

In a world full of sparkly genderist misogyny, it's almost comforting to see an old skool sexist. Almost.

ThreeWordHarpy · 11/06/2024 09:33

Right wing misogynists think women are their private property. Left wing misogynists think women are public property. The only difference is that the right wing ones are usually more immediately obvious to voters, like this charmer.

Gettingbysomehow · 11/06/2024 09:28

Well that ugly bastard can fuck right off. I've worked full time since I was 18 and I'm 62 now.

ArabellaScott · 11/06/2024 09:23

This man must be super progressive. There is a flag for spongegender. Actually, several.

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Kucinghitam · 11/06/2024 09:02

I'm astonished, astonished I tell you, that a Reform candidate is a sexist, racist arsehole.

LauderSyme · 11/06/2024 09:01

Fucking sponging women raising children and caring for the elderly, infirm and vulnerable, and needing public money to support their personal economic sacrifices.

This man is a stupid cunt.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 11/06/2024 08:50

SinnerBoy · 11/06/2024 02:50

He's whined that his comments were from a long time ago and he oughtn't be judged on them now. Perhaps it's just me, but 2022 doesn't seem very long ago.

1992 I might understand as him being an immature teenage twat. 2022? not a chance.

highame · 11/06/2024 08:37

I do hope Reform continue to produce these dopes, it made me laugh out loud.
The supporters seem to be some sort of bizarre fan club who worship at the feet of Farage. No doubt we'll have some derivation of MAGA, perhaps MECCA, oh the irony 😂

mrshoho · 11/06/2024 07:55

SinnerBoy · 11/06/2024 02:50

He's whined that his comments were from a long time ago and he oughtn't be judged on them now. Perhaps it's just me, but 2022 doesn't seem very long ago.

I was thinking the same! Are we expected to believe he's had some sort of epiphany since 2022!

DifficultBloodyWoman · 11/06/2024 04:17

SpockUppet · 10/06/2024 17:04

I normally avoid ad hominem arguments, but will make an exception for this misogynistic toe-rag.

This man's head does actually look like it's spent too long up his own arse. It has a suppository-esque quality to it, especially with the smirk.

I had to click on the picture because it came with a ‘sensitive content’ warning! It must have been your description that generated that! 🤣

ZoomDoomZoom · 11/06/2024 03:03

I'll post that BBC article on my fb page as there's a school mum who is running a fan club for Reform atm. She's a thick Twit but is constantly fawning about Farage so a bit of counter balance is needed.