80 new rape courts

Showing a your true colours there

But they struggle to define what a woman is. If they say no men in women’s prisons but consider transwomen as women then by their definition there would be no men in women’s prisons even if transwomen were present.

What do they mean by 'men'? Is it all men, or just those without a GRC, who they deem to be women?

Lisa Nandy was clear that men who say they're women should be in the women's estate and hasn't gone back on that pronouncement.

And frankly, if your comprehension skills are so bad that you see raising the limitations in the justice system (no judges / barristers and no prison space) as 'wanting rapists to walk free', then there is no hope for you. Can't even begin to think why you'd misrepresent like that. 🤔🤔

Labour have said categorically that men shouldn't be in womens prisons, they are not the ones that have collapsed the prison estate.

You seem to want rapists to be free to attack women in society generally.

Once again, it appears that the TWAW issue is used, not by people genuinely concerned about womens rights but using it to bash Labour with.

I mean it sounds fab but in reality is this just getting rid of cases quicker?

The stats for men actually getting found guilty is terrifying. I’d would have preferred that being looked at first before they start ‘clearing back log’

Just to note I’m politically homeless. I’d love it if Rosie and Kemi joined forces and booted them all out but that’s never gonna happen

So let's stick a rapist in prison with women?

You first.

And a whole bunch of us have told you, theres no space.
No space or people to staff courts, no prison space, so if they cant go to prison, where will they go? Community based sentence. Which means out on the street, never even locked up.
Have you even thought this through or just seen a headline and gone wow.

BS!

We used to convict far more rapists than we do now.

The reason for the drop is the average 2 years it takes (some far longer) this muddies the waters, people decide to drop their allegations etc etc.

Far fewer police too.

The Tories want to use any capacity in the court system to deal with asylum claims..... Starmer wants to use it for rape victims.

Who is on the side of women?

Its very clear, but you as always, will never credit Labour for anything at all, thats v clear.

I struggle with the idea that on one hand they are fine with increasing the risk to women with their TRA nonsense whilst saying they will do more for rape victims by locking up perpetrators…. Probably with other women.

It’s fucking nonsensical. If you care about violence against women you safeguard sex based rights and stop heightening the risks women and children face by allowing men free reign in womens spaces.

It’s not just rape is it either, it’s being made to feel you can’t say no to a man doing a smear cos his name is brenda and he’s wearing sparkly eyeshadow. Or being scared shitless because theres some unit loitering around the womens toilets. Or avoiding your swimming pool because Chalene likes to walk around with his penis hanging out. It’s the squeezing women out of spaces where they feel safe and comfortable. You can’t even complain about exposure in some of those cases because it would make you transphobic.

And no I don’t trust Labour not to do all that to women. If you still struggle with a basic definition of what a woman is then you have no intention of dealing with the above. If you refuse to clarify that gender actually means sex in the equalities act you definitely don’t give a shit do you.

I note that @CassieMaddox is resolutely failing to respond to the posts which have raised lack of judges / barristers. Almost like it's an inconvenient truth!

And I don't believe for a second they have a revolutionary new method of obtaining objective evidence. The biggest problem with securing a rape conviction is lack of witnesses/non subjective evidence. It's usually his word against hers.

“Halve violence against women and girls”. Has Starmer finally worked out what a woman is? Does he recognise which sex is responsible for the vast majority of violence against women and girls?

He might start by addressing the issues of the 'most marginalised' group of women. The one which many people believe face elevated levels of violence. I.E. transwomen.

I read an article recently which talked about the large number of barristers with specialist expertise in rape and sexual assault cases either due to retire or planning to stop taking these cases. It was worrying.

Found it: https://www.lawgazette.co.uk/news/landmark-survey-reveals-mass-exodus-of-specialist-rape-lawyers/5118720.article

Its always some other woman that gets to be volunteered as acceptable collateral damage. If you aren't bothered, volunteer yourself.

It's easy to say that when you're of the belief that you'll never go to prison. But what the Post Office scandal has taught me is never say never; miscarriages of justice happen.

We should all be banging the drum to make sure no men (bits lopped off or not) are put into women's prisons, because no woman deserves to be housed with men in their prison.

Sorry but I don't believe a thing this man says. Feels like it's something a focus group has come up with just to try and win over fema!e votes. Vote for them if you want, but don't come crying on MN in a year or two saying, where are the rape courts Keir promised! It's simplistic and not a solution, as only a tiny minority of rapes will EVER get as far as court anyway...

There is no need to put men in womens prisons. Unless all the women prisoners have been released to make room for them.

Of course men locked up with women isn't a priority for you. Shocker.

@CassieMaddox - easy to say when you aren't the one locked in a cell with a rapist

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Perhaps the sentences will be suspended or community based rather than prison.

I hope they don't try to introduce restorative justice.