KJK standing for Bristol Central

maybe once we've got our mps in place it'll be time for another push on letters / contact with concerns about GC issues (and other women's issues too!) - deffo more on my radar in terms of how to approach politicians. not something i did much of before.

I had it in my head Thangam was GC on the down low so i'll be interested to hear it from her more clearly!

and yeh fml the Raquel Rosario Sanchez stuff. so bad.

literally saw video of someone i've worked with screaming at her going into a meeting in bristol 😬 RRS is so likable and completely unobjectionable it just shows how mad all this is

I emailed Thangham a few years ago about this issue and she sent a really considered response, she had a background in DV/SV and i think can definitely be trusted to prioritise women’s rights. I’ve always felt confident in voting for her.

I didn’t know KJK was in Bristol, i thought she lived in London.

A phrase used by transactivists and gender ideologues on social media to describe how unsafe and threatened they feel when others state incontrovertible biological facts or use sex-based pronouns and name an individual's sex rather than going along with their chosen gender identity.

What is literal violence?

Labour will almost certainly get in and I want good MPs in that majority. People like Thangham not Dodds. She does tread a careful line and in Bristol I can see why but the mood on the ground in Bristol has definitely changed

Yes @NoWordForFluffy and it’ll be interesting to see if Thagham gets dragged into “are TWAW?” & other stuff whether Labour will despatch back up or leave her twisting in the wind?

...but she sees feminism through the spectrum of opposing the Patriarchy and will not engage on GC issues. As if the whole TWAW isn't an expression of the Patriarchy.
TBH I feel she has to tread a very careful line on this.

I'd think this is what KJK wants to draw out of her then: unequivocal statements about what she really believes.

@testing987654321, KJK has already said on a number of occasions that she's doing this for sunlight, not for votes.

I will vote Thangham. She is a good MP and we need MPs like her in the Labour Party to voice concerns. There are a number of really good people in the party but many prospective MPs scared to discuss

a handful of gc women i know in bristol are going for labour despite their misgivings.

we're a more lefty or centrist bunch though.

i'm personally happy to (well, not HAPPY too, but i will! 😛) vote whichever way keep tories out, but i think i'm in a labour safe seat now so might go for a vote spoil.

Maybe if the Labour woman is actually good on women's rights then KJK won't manage to get many votes off of her.

I wonder how much Denyer will care. The Greens are pretty open about their trans stand, and much more hardline than Labour. They’re already using as a way to attract disaffected pro-trans Labour voters. In the context of an expected Labour landslide, voting Green is less of a risk of denying them a majority (see OJ). The more I think about it, the more pissed off I am about KJK potentially helping the Greens kick out one of the better Labour MPs.

I’m assuming it’s so she can challenge denyer extensively on the Green stance on women’s rights v trans demands and drag up all the skeletons from their closet. By doing that I’m further assuming she’s hoping MSM might pick up on it

but I’m assuming a lot!

That's another reason I find Bristol Central such an odd shout for KJK.

idk i'm not convinced by her strategy, but i suppose if she's single issue of the GRA then she won't be looking out for other women's issues and who is actually good on them (yeah yeah i know it doesn't matter if they don't know what a woman is but as we've seen, the idea of 'legal sex' will probably go away as more legal cases are brought anyway imo 🤷‍♀️)

That's the quandary isn't it. Do you vote PoW, possibly enabling a Green win, or hold your nose and vote Labour. In a different constituency it might not matter, but Thangham is definitely better for women than Carla. Who do you want voting on these issues in parliament?

Andddd just seen @RebelliousCow said much the same

Yes, we need Thangam to retain her seat.

Good old Owen ....he could cost the Greens a few votes? They do seem to attract cranks. And boy is he turning into a crank. Trouble is - FPTP. KJK might siphon off enough votes from Thangam to help the Greens win? Well....it will be interesting anyway !

I'll be interested to see what happens.

On a personal note my fear is if any great attention comes up with TRAs getting rowdy here again it'll chase all the young women on the cusp of peaking (and idk it's feeling like it's more and more women right now) will all be chased back into silence. I don't think that cohort will feel emboldened to speak out by KJK, or would feel particularly represented by her.

They'll peak eventually I'm sure anyway, I'm just impatient 😛

Would be nice to see KJK have a go at Carla Denyer though lol

Saw a clip of Owen Jones trying to harass Thangam as she was campaigning in her constituency. He is supporting the Greens now, isn't he. He referred to himself as 'a journalist'

The Greens are starting to get a lot of media scrutiny, now, due to the anti semitic nature of comments emanating from many of their candidates. Really out there stuff! We all know, though, that the Greens lost the plot years ago and have now become totally submerged in Identity Politics, and in throwing tins of soup over great works of art.

She is standing against Thangham for labour who is supportive of women's rights although no very loud about it

Thanks - I was so uninspired yesterday when looking at the other options!