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KJK standing for Bristol Central

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Sausagenbacon · 09/06/2024 08:51

I'm delighted- someone to vote for !

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CassieSaysGoodbyeTories · 02/07/2024 08:56

Turboislander · 02/07/2024 08:53

I was expecting the room to be packed full of greens as someone told me that 24/7 lean Green. But actually Labour seemed to get at least as much applause (possibly more) than the Greens so I was pleasantly surprised.

turbo I've just got your username! Nice one Wine

Turboislander · 02/07/2024 08:56

Justme56 · 02/07/2024 08:53

There are clips of the hustings online specifically the Lib Dem (he says he is a gay man), suggesting he can’t tell the difference between a man and a woman without asking. He does use the word ‘gender’ (because we all know it adds that bit of confusion into the mix) but it’s so obvious that he’s talking nonsense.

KJK had a pop at the Greens, Labour and Lib Dems. He was the only one who directly addressed her on it (the other two just stayed silent on the issue). He was fully on board with gender but did make me laugh when he said "As a gay man, I'm the last person to know what a woman is"

CassieSaysGoodbyeTories · 02/07/2024 08:55

Justme56 · 02/07/2024 08:53

There are clips of the hustings online specifically the Lib Dem (he says he is a gay man), suggesting he can’t tell the difference between a man and a woman without asking. He does use the word ‘gender’ (because we all know it adds that bit of confusion into the mix) but it’s so obvious that he’s talking nonsense.

That's not what he said. He said as a gay man he's not the right person to define woman.
He was funny actually and at least he grasped the nettle. The rest of the panel studiously ignored it (apart from crazy Reform dude saying "well done" after her closing speeches)

Turboislander · 02/07/2024 08:53

I was expecting the room to be packed full of greens as someone told me that 24/7 lean Green. But actually Labour seemed to get at least as much applause (possibly more) than the Greens so I was pleasantly surprised.

CassieSaysGoodbyeTories · 02/07/2024 08:53

I see from that article the Bristol LWS has been cancelled. Shame.

Justme56 · 02/07/2024 08:53

There are clips of the hustings online specifically the Lib Dem (he says he is a gay man), suggesting he can’t tell the difference between a man and a woman without asking. He does use the word ‘gender’ (because we all know it adds that bit of confusion into the mix) but it’s so obvious that he’s talking nonsense.

CassieSaysGoodbyeTories · 02/07/2024 08:51

IwantToRetire · 02/07/2024 00:34

all candidates must be invited.

Yes I know that. But what I dont know is why all the candidates thought this was an important hustings, but not others.

Does Bristol 24/7 have a lot of influence in the city?

Carla Denyer and Thangam Debonnaire are in a tight race to be elected so both of them need every vote they can get and not attending hustings wouldn't be a good look. I watched it to see how that debate went down. Think Thangam did a better job but it looks like Denyer has more backing locally.
The other 4 have nothing to lose and know it would get coverage because of the closeness of the race and the fact one candidate is the Green Co leader and one is a cabinet minister.

Turboislander · 02/07/2024 08:51

The Reform guy was generally crackers throughout. In his opening statement he declared climate change a myth (got laughed at by the audience and Carla Denyer's face was a picture). He was a bit twitchy and fidgety and to be honest I thought he didn't look entirely well.

Was suprised to see them all there (only Thangham and Carla had confirmed initially). Didn't think Bristol 24/7 had huge amounts of sway but the Beacon is one of our more famous venues. Perhaps the location (and likely crowds) is what drew some of the candidates in. I had wanted to see more of a head-to-head with Carla and Thangham as they are the two main contenders but actually it was quite interesting to hear from them all.

Madcats · 02/07/2024 08:44

I live over in Bath, so pay a moderate amount of attention to Bristol news.

The main local paper, the Bristol Post, is now owned by Reach plc (like the one in Bath). The paper is a shadow of its former self, with few (any?) journalists based locally. It is mainly puff pieces/advertorials.

Bristol 24/7 is a community interest co, with a heavy social media presence and website. There is a free paper (though I've never seen it).
It does seem to take an interest in what's going on in Bristol and reports news in a timely manner.

IwantToRetire · 02/07/2024 00:34

all candidates must be invited.

Yes I know that. But what I dont know is why all the candidates thought this was an important hustings, but not others.

Does Bristol 24/7 have a lot of influence in the city?

AlvinStardustsGloves · 02/07/2024 00:31

The host explained at the start.
For a hustings that is open to the public, all candidates must be invited.

IwantToRetire · 02/07/2024 00:24

Turboislander · 01/07/2024 23:34

Hustings can be watched on youtube if anyone is interested. It's long. All six candidates were there.

Thanks for this link. Its been hard to find.

Is there anyone from Bristol who can explain why this hustings attracted all candidates.

Is like a news service for Bristol it seems to be called Britsol 24/7.

Just asking given the info I shared from facebook about how both the Labour party and Green party candidates didn't seem it worthwhile to turn out for community groups.

CassieSaysGoodbyeTories · 01/07/2024 23:49

The reform dudes closing statement was crackers

Turboislander · 25/06/2024 14:39

NooNakedJacuzziness · 25/06/2024 14:29

She's also endorsed by Little OJ on the back of the leaflet...

That tells you all you need to know really!

NooNakedJacuzziness · 25/06/2024 14:29

She's also endorsed by Little OJ on the back of the leaflet...

woman2womanmeetswomanparrish · 25/06/2024 14:29

NooNakedJacuzziness · 25/06/2024 13:22

Hold the press - famous man has spoken. It really annoys me that they think voters are so easily impressed 🙄.

A man who solicits prostitutes turns out to be a misogynist, colour me surprised.

Turboislander · 25/06/2024 14:24

NooNakedJacuzziness · 25/06/2024 13:22

Hold the press - famous man has spoken. It really annoys me that they think voters are so easily impressed 🙄.

Odd that he is getting involved (isn't he normally a Lib Dem supporter?). We already have an MP who is a politician with integrity. Carla D comes across as a camera loving opportunist and the Greens have put out several lies about Labour in their local campaign materials. Integrity my arse.

CassieSaysGoodbyeTories · 25/06/2024 13:35

Just saw on her twitter KJK is claiming they tried to keep her out of the hustings when the security guard is very clear it's her camera that's the problem not her 🙄
I'm assuming she found it tedious as that was the only update

NooNakedJacuzziness · 25/06/2024 13:22

Hold the press - famous man has spoken. It really annoys me that they think voters are so easily impressed 🙄.

KJK standing for Bristol Central
CassieSaysGoodbyeTories · 20/06/2024 12:11

Turboislander · 20/06/2024 11:28

The Beacon are doing a hustings and say that they have invited all candidates (sold out though now unfortunately). Bristol Central Hustings with Bristol 24/7 | Bristol Beacon I haven't seen any campaigning from KJK. Seems a bit of a waste standing if she's not going to do anything. I wonder if she knows about Jude English (local Green councillor and lesbian who was kicked out of the Greens for saying biological sex is real).

Oh damn. Shame I missed that

CassieSaysGoodbyeTories · 20/06/2024 12:11

PainOngoing · 20/06/2024 11:23

I (personally) think she picked the constituency as it's the one of the most captured places in the UK outside of Brighton, and because Thangam D is there, who seems to be a closeted "GC feminist". I think she's goading TD to come out as GC.

As for not doing anything, she was banned from the hustings wasn't she?

And I genuinely don't think she'd be safe walking the streets, especially after seeing people lobbing stuff at Farage. I don't support Farage AT ALL, but I do believe in his right to campaign without fear of something being thrown at his head!

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I don't think that's quite right. She wasn't invited to one cross Bristol hustings, where only the 4 biggest parties got represented.

Chariothorses · 20/06/2024 11:48

It's terrifying that misogyny is so rife in Bristol Labour MPs are too scared to speak up for vulnerable women and single sex spaces ( in case they get the Rosie Duffield treatment?), and Green MPs are kicked out of their party altogether...
How long can this level of ideological contempt for women and reality go on for? It scares me.
Any woman speaking up is brave, whatever party she belongs to, and I thank the women who do. Wish the men would too.

PainOngoing · 20/06/2024 11:38

Turboislander · 20/06/2024 11:28

The Beacon are doing a hustings and say that they have invited all candidates (sold out though now unfortunately). Bristol Central Hustings with Bristol 24/7 | Bristol Beacon I haven't seen any campaigning from KJK. Seems a bit of a waste standing if she's not going to do anything. I wonder if she knows about Jude English (local Green councillor and lesbian who was kicked out of the Greens for saying biological sex is real).

It sounds like she does according to this article:

https://www.bristol247.com/news-and-features/news/kellie-jay-keen-candidate-bristol-central/

"Speaking in a live video on Friday, Keen mentioned how former Bristol Green councillor Jude English had been suspended and “treated abysmally apparently because she doesn’t think women have penises”."

Kellie-Jay Keen is candidate in Bristol Central

Keen, also known as Posie Parker, founded the Let Women Speak movement and will be standing for the Party of Women

https://www.bristol247.com/news-and-features/news/kellie-jay-keen-candidate-bristol-central

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