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KJK standing for Bristol Central

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Sausagenbacon · 09/06/2024 08:51

I'm delighted- someone to vote for !

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CassieSaysGoodbyeTories · 02/07/2024 22:50

Sausagenbacon · 02/07/2024 22:47

And, tbh, watching her closing speech at the hustings, promising to make it easier for women to leave their children for someone else to bring up so they can go to work (stay at home mothers? How awful) isn't my kind of Feminism

Seriously? You want to impose you own views about motherhood onto other women? That isn't feminism either. Women should have the freedom to exercise their own choices. And the ability to minimise the risk of becoming financially dependent on an abusive partner.

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Sausagenbacon · 02/07/2024 22:47

And, tbh, watching her closing speech at the hustings, promising to make it easier for women to leave their children for someone else to bring up so they can go to work (stay at home mothers? How awful) isn't my kind of Feminism

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Sausagenbacon · 02/07/2024 22:45

Thanks. Good point, I'd forgotten that.
But , for me anyway, it's not enough given what's been going on and, of course, a vote for her is a vote for Labour, which I can't do.

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Joleyne · 02/07/2024 22:31

"Telling women what we can wear, denying our agency and our choice to be in a place of democracy wearing purple green and cream - still happening in 2022 and still why we still need our feminism."
Thangam Debonnair in 2022, while wearing those colours in Parliament.

I believe she also spoke out against the attack on the WPUK Fringe meeting at the Labour conference when the TRA mob were hammering on the windows.

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Sausagenbacon · 02/07/2024 22:10

I would love, just once, if anyone could demonstrate in what way TD has demonstrated she's GC.
An actual speech, or action.
I find it insulting that she has done nothing, but gets the badge of being GC.

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Omlettes · 02/07/2024 21:39

I lived in Bristol for many years and was in the GP alongside Carla Denyer and just to say she is utterly ruthless, but not particularly bright, a 'Head Girl' very much looking for male approval. On the otherhand Thangam Debonnair was by far the best MP of any party.

In fact I would go further to say she is the best MP bar none in anywhere Ive voted in the UK. Responsive, informed and on the ball. I really hope KJK doesnt bleed her votes because its a very tight contest and could easily swing to the Greens.

Joleyne · 02/07/2024 21:35

Sloejelly · 02/07/2024 21:12

But she was never going to win and she knew that. That wasn’t the point of standing.

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I thought the point of her standing was to challenge the genderist Labour MPs and force the Labour party into a discussion.

TD is GC. She was always going to have a hard fight with the Greens and the TRAs in her constituency. They're already claiming she'll lose because she's a "TERF".

MPs like Dawn Butler or Nadia Whittome would have been a better choice and they most certainly would have taken on the challenge.

Sloejelly · 02/07/2024 21:12

Joleyne · 02/07/2024 21:09

TD is very popular locally and is known as one of the hardest working MPs.
I really wish KJM has chosen another MP to challenge.
We need all the decent MPs we can get.

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But she was never going to win and she knew that. That wasn’t the point of standing.

Omlettes · 02/07/2024 21:11

Joleyne · 02/07/2024 21:09

TD is very popular locally and is known as one of the hardest working MPs.
I really wish KJM has chosen another MP to challenge.
We need all the decent MPs we can get.

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Agreed

Joleyne · 02/07/2024 21:09

Ereshkigalangcleg · 02/07/2024 09:30

I thought Thangam Debonnair was consistently getting the most applause of anyone. It seemed a bit muted for Denyer.

TD is very popular locally and is known as one of the hardest working MPs.
I really wish KJM has chosen another MP to challenge.
We need all the decent MPs we can get.

dougalfromthemagicroundabout · 02/07/2024 17:59

Ereshkigalangcleg · 02/07/2024 09:31

As a gay man, I'm the last person to know what a woman is"

I bet he knows what a man is, though.

She should have asked him if he'd have sex with or feel comfortable in an open plan changing room with a transman.

I mean he could lie, I suppose, but often it's obvious when people lie about this. And I'm fairly certain the answer to that question is 'no'.

Also - isn't pressuring lesbians to have sex with lady dick a bit homophobic? I wish KJK had managed to grill him on that.

It's depressing that a gay man who wants to be a politician is so homophobic against same-sex attraction.

CassieSaysGoodbyeTories · 02/07/2024 17:28

Turboislander · 02/07/2024 16:33

He refused to say who it was that was violent against women and girls though. KJK asks him who and he replies with 'could be anyone'.

Luckily he has less than zero chance of being elected. Plus he couldn't say "men" or it would beg an immediate follow up.

I disagree with what he said but he was the only one brave enough to engage in KJKs points head on, so kudos to him for that.

Turboislander · 02/07/2024 16:33

He refused to say who it was that was violent against women and girls though. KJK asks him who and he replies with 'could be anyone'.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 02/07/2024 16:26

He's a bit nice but dim, that's how I perceived him.

Justme56 · 02/07/2024 13:59

What he also said was that he didn’t want rules to define who is a woman and who is a man, and then goes on about what matters is that many women are terrified about violence against women and girls. It makes zero sense, if according to him there is no definition of who these 2 groups are - It’s getting me confused just trying to write this down.

OldCrone · 02/07/2024 13:31

CrossPurposes · 02/07/2024 12:50

A man who fancies men by default knows what a woman is. I cannot believe how idiotic the world has become.

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Exactly. How does he know he's gay if he doesn't know the difference between men and women?

CrossPurposes · 02/07/2024 12:50

Turboislander · 02/07/2024 08:56

KJK had a pop at the Greens, Labour and Lib Dems. He was the only one who directly addressed her on it (the other two just stayed silent on the issue). He was fully on board with gender but did make me laugh when he said "As a gay man, I'm the last person to know what a woman is"

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A man who fancies men by default knows what a woman is. I cannot believe how idiotic the world has become.

CassieSaysGoodbyeTories · 02/07/2024 11:42

Anyone who wants a laugh should watch the Reform candidates closing speech

Seth Meyers Lol GIF by Late Night with Seth Meyers
CassieSaysGoodbyeTories · 02/07/2024 11:41

Turboislander · 02/07/2024 09:02

A few years ago I lived quite close to it

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Ah me too! A bit too close by TBH but I am very fond of the Banksy as a result

duc748 · 02/07/2024 10:47

the Beacon is one of our more famous venues

Even more famous under its previous name! 😛

BloodyHellKenAgain · 02/07/2024 10:11

NooNakedJacuzziness · 25/06/2024 13:22

Hold the press - famous man has spoken. It really annoys me that they think voters are so easily impressed 🙄.

I hate, hate, hate celebrity political endorsements no matter which party they're for and find them a massive turn off 😡

Ereshkigalangcleg · 02/07/2024 09:31

As a gay man, I'm the last person to know what a woman is"

I bet he knows what a man is, though.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 02/07/2024 09:30

I thought Thangam Debonnair was consistently getting the most applause of anyone. It seemed a bit muted for Denyer.

Turboislander · 02/07/2024 09:02

CassieSaysGoodbyeTories · 02/07/2024 08:56

turbo I've just got your username! Nice one Wine

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A few years ago I lived quite close to it

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