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KJK standing for Bristol Central

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Sausagenbacon · 09/06/2024 08:51

I'm delighted- someone to vote for !

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Turboislander · 04/07/2024 09:06

Thangham has been far too quiet on the issue but there is no doubt where the Greens stand. I'd rather have an MP who didn't do enough than one who actively works against women. Labour are the only people who can keep the Greens out. A plea to everyone in Bristol Central - hold your nose if you have to, but give Thangham your vote

CassieSaysGoodbyeTories · 03/07/2024 23:20

Madcats · 03/07/2024 16:27

Tenuously linked, but I see that Billy Bragg is on X trying to get the troons to vote Lib Dem in non-labour seats so that they become the official opposition.

I am so cross that Rishi called the election so early so he could get the family over to California before term starts. Kemi was so so close to beginning to sort out the current mess.

😂 of course she was!
Or she sat on it to try to use it for electoral advantage! Who knows? It's a mystery

NoWordForFluffy · 03/07/2024 18:36

CassieSaysGoodbyeTories · 03/07/2024 14:15

Exactly that.

If KJK cured cancer you'd find a problem with it somehow.

Madcats · 03/07/2024 16:27

Tenuously linked, but I see that Billy Bragg is on X trying to get the troons to vote Lib Dem in non-labour seats so that they become the official opposition.

I am so cross that Rishi called the election so early so he could get the family over to California before term starts. Kemi was so so close to beginning to sort out the current mess.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 03/07/2024 15:14

How many times do you need telling that she's said herself she's not doing it for votes? She's doing it to get sunlight on the issues.

She literally said it at the beginning of the hustings, FFS. It's not going to come as a shock to her.

CassieSaysGoodbyeTories · 03/07/2024 14:15

Joleyne · 03/07/2024 14:11

If that was her intention, I think she missed by miles.
She'd have got more sunlight if she'd challenged one of the TWAW MPs, for whom this is a top issue, and got a real debate going.

Exactly that.

CassieSaysGoodbyeTories · 03/07/2024 14:15

Sausagenbacon · 03/07/2024 10:07

Fwiw I thought td's response on gaza was the best thing she said all night.
And I thought kjk's response was fine
And, hey, you do you and all that.

It was fine, it was diplomatic. It wasn't "being honest and saying it like it is" as a quick glance at her twitter will show. So I thought it was a bit "off-brand" for her. If I didn't know her and the topic was important to me I'd Google to see what her opinions were.

Also don't think it did her any favours at all to be sat next to Reform dude. All his nodding to her points will have been off putting to a lot of people. I wonder how they picked the seating order.

Joleyne · 03/07/2024 14:11

If that was her intention, I think she missed by miles.
She'd have got more sunlight if she'd challenged one of the TWAW MPs, for whom this is a top issue, and got a real debate going.

NoWordForFluffy · 03/07/2024 10:19

CassieSaysGoodbyeTories · 03/07/2024 09:39

KJK is going to get barely any votes. She picked the wrong constituency due to the competition between Denyer (TWAW) and Debbonaire (GC friendly).

I'm still not sure why or how that happened. Also not sure what happened to her LWS event yesterday.

How many times do you need telling that she's said herself she's not doing it for votes? She's doing it to get sunlight on the issues.

Sausagenbacon · 03/07/2024 10:07

Fwiw I thought td's response on gaza was the best thing she said all night.
And I thought kjk's response was fine
And, hey, you do you and all that.

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CassieSaysGoodbyeTories · 03/07/2024 09:59

If she had integrity she'd have answered the question about Gaza. She didn't, cos she knows her answer would have been unacceptable to many.

She has a brass neck and supreme confidence of her opinions at all times. That's not the same as integrity. See also: Boris Johnson, Nigel Farage

Sausagenbacon · 03/07/2024 09:42

I don't care. She is a brave woman. She'll probably lose her seat. But I am lucky enough to be able to vote for someone with integrity and I will

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CassieSaysGoodbyeTories · 03/07/2024 09:39

KJK is going to get barely any votes. She picked the wrong constituency due to the competition between Denyer (TWAW) and Debbonaire (GC friendly).

I'm still not sure why or how that happened. Also not sure what happened to her LWS event yesterday.

Sausagenbacon · 03/07/2024 09:36

I repeat, she is our representative. What is the point of having a representative who won't represent you?
Not worried about the tories, they won't get in. I'm voting for someone with balls. Metaphorically speaking. Kjk

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Joleyne · 03/07/2024 09:28

Have you forgotten how violent the TRAs have been in her constituency?

It will be interesting to see if Conservative GC voters are prepared to vote for the only GC candidate actually capable of keeping the Green genderist candidate out.

Sausagenbacon · 03/07/2024 09:14

When you consider the constituency she represents, it was incredibly brave of her to do as she did.
She's paid to be brave.
How brave do her constituents have to be, who have no single sex refuges/help centres.
Brave isn't protecting your seat

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Sausagenbacon · 03/07/2024 08:26

Do you honestly think Carla Denyer will be of more use?
No

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CassieSaysGoodbyeTories · 03/07/2024 08:24

https://twssmagazine.com/2017/04/28/it-feels-like-ive-been-a-feminist-since-the-day-i-was-born-in-conversation-with-thangam-debbonaire-mp/

I want women centring women's concerns in politics. We need more female voices. We need women who will be taken seriously.

Joleyne · 03/07/2024 08:23

Sausagenbacon · 03/07/2024 08:19

How, exÌŒactly, is she more use.
From a GC stance?

Do you honestly think Carla Denyer will be of more use?

Joleyne · 03/07/2024 08:22

When you consider the constituency she represents, it was incredibly brave of her to do as she did.

Sausagenbacon · 03/07/2024 08:19

How, exÌŒactly, is she more use.
From a GC stance?

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CassieSaysGoodbyeTories · 03/07/2024 08:15

IwantToRetire · 03/07/2024 00:35

I cant be bothered to find it, and may even have posted this before, but on the other thread women who are in Bristol and involved with women's groups say that TD has been worse that useless for women's sex based rights.

When it became clear the council were NOT going to fund women only services, TD refused to get involved.

Wearing ribbons to Parliament or whatever is fatuous and meaningless if you aren't prepared to actively use your position to influence decisions on behalf of women's sex based rights.

So even if Bristol Council is the primary culprit she has stood by and done nothing. ie Bristol is now on a par with Brighton and Edinburgh.

Seriously, how can anyone think she is of any use.

Deeds not words.

Debonnaire is of more use than someone whose behaviour causes most of the uninitiated to write off the GC movement as a bunch of bigoted fascists.

And certainly more helpful to the GC cause than Carla Denyer would be.

I think Denyer will win though.

CassieSaysGoodbyeTories · 03/07/2024 08:13

Sausagenbacon · 03/07/2024 07:17

Seriously? You want to impose you own views about motherhood onto other women? That isn't feminism either. Women should have the freedom to exercise their own choices. And the ability to minimise the risk of becoming financially dependent on an abusive partner.
Yes, women should have exactly this freedom. But I'm tired of this being presented by politicians as the best route women can taken

Oh, OK, I get you.

Sausagenbacon · 03/07/2024 07:17

Seriously? You want to impose you own views about motherhood onto other women? That isn't feminism either. Women should have the freedom to exercise their own choices. And the ability to minimise the risk of becoming financially dependent on an abusive partner.
Yes, women should have exactly this freedom. But I'm tired of this being presented by politicians as the best route women can taken

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IwantToRetire · 03/07/2024 00:35

I cant be bothered to find it, and may even have posted this before, but on the other thread women who are in Bristol and involved with women's groups say that TD has been worse that useless for women's sex based rights.

When it became clear the council were NOT going to fund women only services, TD refused to get involved.

Wearing ribbons to Parliament or whatever is fatuous and meaningless if you aren't prepared to actively use your position to influence decisions on behalf of women's sex based rights.

So even if Bristol Council is the primary culprit she has stood by and done nothing. ie Bristol is now on a par with Brighton and Edinburgh.

Seriously, how can anyone think she is of any use.

Deeds not words.

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