KJK standing for Bristol Central

Sausagenbacon · 2024-06-09T07:51:52+00:00

I'm delighted- someone to vote for !

duc748 · 05/07/2024 23:23

CassieSaysGoodbyeTories · 05/07/2024 21:21

Define yourself how you like. She calls herself ultra.

Sorry to see Nandy back in the cabinet doing the role Debonnaire shadowed. I would much rather it was TD

I think that's a bad sign.

BezMills · 05/07/2024 22:04

PainOngoing · 05/07/2024 21:11

I support PoW. Do I think trans people have a right to go about their lives peacefully and without harassment? Absolutely feckin lutely!

Do I think the affirmation model is harmful (and downright abusive used with children), YES!

Do I think most trans people "just want to pee" when they go to the toilet. Yes!

Do I think even fully medically transitioned adults belong in single sex spaces designed for the opposite sex. Absolutely NOT.

Do I think "third spaces" should be created to help those who don't want to be in the single sex spaces of their biological sex? Yes!

Should these be created by removing single sex provision? No!!

Am I "ultra" yet? I can keep going..?

Seems legit, in my opinion only a lunatic would disagree. Lunatics exist and are valid but mad imo

CassieSaysGoodbyeTories · 05/07/2024 21:21

Define yourself how you like. She calls herself ultra.

Sorry to see Nandy back in the cabinet doing the role Debonnaire shadowed. I would much rather it was TD

PainOngoing · 05/07/2024 21:11

I support PoW. Do I think trans people have a right to go about their lives peacefully and without harassment? Absolutely feckin lutely!

Do I think the affirmation model is harmful (and downright abusive used with children), YES!

Do I think most trans people "just want to pee" when they go to the toilet. Yes!

Do I think even fully medically transitioned adults belong in single sex spaces designed for the opposite sex. Absolutely NOT.

Do I think "third spaces" should be created to help those who don't want to be in the single sex spaces of their biological sex? Yes!

Should these be created by removing single sex provision? No!!

Am I "ultra" yet? I can keep going..?

Omlettes · 05/07/2024 18:32

CassieSaysGoodbyeTories · 05/07/2024 11:43

I'm talking about her position on "transitioning children"
Anyway the election clearly shows KJKs position is very much in the tiny minority so no mileage in debating it

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I agree with all those points too like most people in the world, but dont trust her. Does that make me a GC Ultra or is nuance available?

OldCrone · 05/07/2024 18:25

CassieSaysGoodbyeTories · 05/07/2024 17:04

I keep getting accused of derailing when I answer questions so I'm not going to bother.

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The only answer required is 'yes' or 'no'.

Yes requires no further comment.

'No' indicates that you think it's not abusive to lie to troubled children that they can change sex and encourage them to be sterilised and have unnecessary surgery in the belief that this will solve their problems.

OldCrone · 05/07/2024 18:17

CassieSaysGoodbyeTories · 05/07/2024 17:04

I keep getting accused of derailing when I answer questions so I'm not going to bother.

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I'll take that as a 'yes' then. Good that we can agree on something.

CassieSaysGoodbyeTories · 05/07/2024 17:04

OldCrone · 05/07/2024 16:18

Does that mean you agree?

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I keep getting accused of derailing when I answer questions so I'm not going to bother.

BezMills · 05/07/2024 16:55

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BezMills · 05/07/2024 16:55

I hope this marks a new style of posting. I'd rather interpret an emoji than scroll through ten paragraphs of whatever.

Brevity is the soul of wit and all that.

OldCrone · 05/07/2024 16:18

CassieSaysGoodbyeTories · 05/07/2024 15:20

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Does that mean you agree?

CassieSaysGoodbyeTories · 05/07/2024 15:20

OldCrone · 05/07/2024 12:27

So how would you describe someone who tells a child that they can change sex and encourages them down a path which leads to them being sterilised and having healthy body parts removed?

'Abuse' seems quite an accurate description to me of what is happening here.

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OldCrone · 05/07/2024 12:27

CassieSaysGoodbyeTories · 05/07/2024 10:31

If you support PoW, yes. Sorry. I don't think its a constructive position to call other people "abusers" when you know little about them.

I don't want to derail the thread. KJK calls herself an "ultra" so.....

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So how would you describe someone who tells a child that they can change sex and encourages them down a path which leads to them being sterilised and having healthy body parts removed?

'Abuse' seems quite an accurate description to me of what is happening here.

BezMills · 05/07/2024 12:20

I'll be surprised if that is what she says, but I'm surprised Iain Smith has a job, so maybe it's one of those days.

Pourquoise · 05/07/2024 12:09

BezMills · 05/07/2024 11:48

"your mileage might vary"

She's still a stone cold legend. I'm looking forward to hearing about and posting about her take on last night.

Her take will probably be to blame Sex Matters, WRN, JKR and the head girls etc for not getting behind and promoting POW.

BezMills · 05/07/2024 11:48

"your mileage might vary"

She's still a stone cold legend. I'm looking forward to hearing about and posting about her take on last night.

duc748 · 05/07/2024 11:47

so no mileage in debating it

Arf! It's the way you tell 'em! 😄

CassieSaysGoodbyeTories · 05/07/2024 11:43

zibzibara · 05/07/2024 10:49

Males deliberately accessing spaces they know to be female-only, disregarding women's and girls' boundaries and ignoring lack of consent, are being inherently abusive - wouldn't you agree?

It's the same mindset as rapists. Take what they want from women and ignore any objections, male desires taking priority over us saying "no".

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I'm talking about her position on "transitioning children"
Anyway the election clearly shows KJKs position is very much in the tiny minority so no mileage in debating it

zibzibara · 05/07/2024 10:49

CassieSaysGoodbyeTories · 05/07/2024 10:31

If you support PoW, yes. Sorry. I don't think its a constructive position to call other people "abusers" when you know little about them.

I don't want to derail the thread. KJK calls herself an "ultra" so.....

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Males deliberately accessing spaces they know to be female-only, disregarding women's and girls' boundaries and ignoring lack of consent, are being inherently abusive - wouldn't you agree?

It's the same mindset as rapists. Take what they want from women and ignore any objections, male desires taking priority over us saying "no".

NancyDrawed · 05/07/2024 10:39

Interesting, as I have found myself far less hard line than some.

I don't want to derail either, so will leave it there.

CassieSaysGoodbyeTories · 05/07/2024 10:31

NancyDrawed · 05/07/2024 10:28

Can I ask what you mean by 'ultra GC'

For transparency I will tell you that I agree with the four statements that KJK starts her events with, which in case you are not familiar with are:

No woman has a penis
No man has a vagina
Nonbinary is nonsensical
Transitioning children is profound abuse

Does that make me 'ultra' in your eyes?

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If you support PoW, yes. Sorry. I don't think its a constructive position to call other people "abusers" when you know little about them.

I don't want to derail the thread. KJK calls herself an "ultra" so.....

NancyDrawed · 05/07/2024 10:28

CassieSaysGoodbyeTories · 05/07/2024 10:25

PoW got fewer votes than the monster raving loony party overall. I'm pleased the ultra GC position isn't attracting people, let's get back to a more constructive debate about women's rights than calling people "abusers"

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Can I ask what you mean by 'ultra GC'

For transparency I will tell you that I agree with the four statements that KJK starts her events with, which in case you are not familiar with are:

No woman has a penis
No man has a vagina
Nonbinary is nonsensical
Transitioning children is profound abuse

Does that make me 'ultra' in your eyes?

BezMills · 05/07/2024 10:26

yeah it's really low! You can see there was a big tussle between the greens and labour, and KJK didn't get any traction in terms of votes cast

SerafinasGoose · 05/07/2024 10:25

SapphosRock · 05/07/2024 10:15

That's a shockingly low number of votes. Even the Monster Raving Loony candidate in Brighton & Hove got 257 votes.

I'd have thought Brighton and Bristol were about the worst two constituencies possible for a women's rights party to gain any significant votes.

The independent candidate in my own constituency, who does advocate for the rights of women and disabled people (a rarity), and for whom I voted pulled in four times this number.

CassieSaysGoodbyeTories · 05/07/2024 10:25

PoW got fewer votes than the monster raving loony party overall. I'm pleased the ultra GC position isn't attracting people, let's get back to a more constructive debate about women's rights than calling people "abusers"