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How should I vote

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Extrahotpleasenottoomilky · 08/06/2024 17:04

I have a dilemma about how to vote on July 4th. The variables:

  1. My eldest child (almost 18) identifies as trans.
  2. I find this really, really difficult. By instinct, I'm fairly gender-critical and believe in the preservation of biologically selective women's spaces, sports etc.
  3. On the other hand, after a recent massive falling out with child, I vowed to suppress my feelings and try to support them and their identity as much as I can. Relationship with child more important than my feelings, etc.
  4. Now to the GE. My MP is a massive, vocal, trans-advocate. It's a safe seat and she doesn't need my vote, but any of the parties I would entertain voting for (ie not Conservative or Reform) are all v liberal on the subject of trans identity. On this policy point, I wouldn't choose any of the parties but I'm open to Labour if their manifesto reassures me that they've learned something from Cass.
However, however, the bloody MP! She'd put Cass in the shredder. Voting for her would be the right thing by my child, probably the right thing to do in relation to the bigger picture, but deeply, deeply the wrong thing by my (feminist) heart. Can't see any independents worth the vote, and I've never yet spoilt my paper. Is this the only thing I can do in good conscience?

What would you do, wise ones?

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ArabellaScott · 08/06/2024 18:21

I vowed to suppress my feelings and try to support them and their identity as much as I can. Relationship with child more important than my feelings, etc.

Your relationship with your child is the key thing here, isn't it? And how on earth does one separate that from feelings?!

You can vote for whomever you want. It's nobody's business but yours. Your choice. Your life. Your vote.

Voting for her would be the right thing by my child

I really don't see how this follows, unless you mean you are obliged to share all your child's beliefs to have a relationship with them? That doesn't sound like a healthy relationship to me.

Children need boundaries, they need respectful, caring relationships, and they need to learn to live with views that may not accord with theirs. They don't need a parent that acquiesces to everything they demand, or abnegates themself.

Extrahotpleasenottoomilky · 08/06/2024 17:55

LittleMissViper · 08/06/2024 17:34

Unfortunately not. Cons, Lab, LibDem, Green, Reform, Workers something, independents.

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LittleMissViper · 08/06/2024 17:34

Have you got an SDP candidate in your area?

https://sdp.org.uk/policies/transgender-and-biological-sex-based-rights/

Extrahotpleasenottoomilky · 08/06/2024 17:28

esmeisa · 08/06/2024 17:12

Would voting for the MP that would put cass in the bin really be the best thing for your child?
I would think if my child identified as trans I would be be voting for a politician that supports more safeguards in the treatment of gender dysphoria and scientifically backed treatments.
Your vote is private, they don't need to know who you voted for. I would vote where my conscious lies, not to appease others in my life.

That's the rational response and probably what most sensible people would think. Purely emotionally, however, I suppose I'd like to not have the secret of denying a trans-activist candidate my vote, because of their transactivism.

So, as far as I can tell, the only parties on the other side of this issue are Cons and Reform (unless the independents come good), and I'm not voting for either of those.

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Extrahotpleasenottoomilky · 08/06/2024 17:26

Ignore this.....

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BackToLurk · 08/06/2024 17:19

Vote with your conscience or spoil your ballot. It's no-one else's business. If you're pushed remind the questioner that people fought for the right to vote in private.

esmeisa · 08/06/2024 17:12

Would voting for the MP that would put cass in the bin really be the best thing for your child?
I would think if my child identified as trans I would be be voting for a politician that supports more safeguards in the treatment of gender dysphoria and scientifically backed treatments.
Your vote is private, they don't need to know who you voted for. I would vote where my conscious lies, not to appease others in my life.

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