Let Women Speak Norwich - 08 Jun 2024, 13:00 – 15:00

LWS could not use stewards who attend far right marches and if their leaflets are handed out at far right events they could make a statement distancing themselves from it.

The "we can't stop what other people do, its just coincidence" is wearing a bit thin now

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So disappointing how far TR has aligned to GC concerns

Now I look at it more there is some dissent in the comments.

More of the same from them today:

Shout-out to these wastes of skin : r/Norwich (reddit.com)

It's quite sad to see how incurious they all are.

Does anyone have an update on how the event went today? I hope it was ok?

It’s been bothering me for ages what the Let Women Speak logo reminds me of, and it just clicked. It’s the London ITV logo from the 80s!

The person who started the thread ,who presumably knows a lot about the issues, highlighted the other protest by sharing the poster & also said 'great to see this. I hope this too goes well'. I think everyone. Particularly someone who starts a thread, has a responsibility to check these groups out first before reposting their promotional posters etc. I'm trying to highlight how important that is.

Don't worry SAT (whoever they are) will forever be tainted as fascists for supporting KJK in some way. Isn't that how this works?

Citylady88 on this pro LMS thread people have now expressed support for a SAT event.
?? could you point out who has expressed support for a SAT event?
Somebody who obviously didn't know anything about SAT said 'Oh great, not all universities are captured', and as far as I can see everybody else - myself included, twice, - have said that they are probably out for trouble and are not wanted anywhere near LWS.

It's really terrifying to see these groups getting legitimised especially if you're a black woman or a lesbian woman etc.
I completely agree with you, so you should be relieved and heartened to see the opposition to SAT expressed on this thread.

Let's hope it is better policed than the Liverpool event last September...where the TRAS ( and passing Labour delegates and union officials on their way to the conference hall) were allowed to press right up against the barriers the women had been caged in...screaming " Nazi" and "Fascist" at us for two hours......it was awful.

on this pro LMS thread people have now expressed support for a SAT event. This all helps to legitimise SAT and all their causes. People need to exercise more caution. Someone or some group agreeing with you on LWS matters doesn't mean you should blindly advertise them & signal for support for them. It's really terrifying to see these groups getting legitimised especially if you're a black woman or a lesbian woman etc.

Hmmm yes I got that vibe from their website. My fear is a repeat of the 'oh look LWS is supported by transphobic nazis' thing again.
Obviously there's nothing LWS can do about it, but it's important to put on record at this stage, before the LWS gathering starts, that Students Against Tyranny are not invited and not welcome if they're looking for trouble.

I'm not speaking for LWS here - well actually I am! they aren't an organisation with spokespeople, so I'm volunteering to put on record that LWS didn't invite Students Against Tyranny and don't want any trouble.

Here is one of the uea protest speakers with Tommy Robinson. It's terrifying that people here think Tommy Robinsons group stand up for women. He's a convicted criminal including for stalking a woman & when police intervened in a domestic with him and his then girlfriend he assaulted them & has convictions from that incident too. That's besides the actual fascism.

It's not great to see this. You should learn more about the speakers at protest 2. They are anti immigration, I would say in fact racist, as well as climate change denying & covid conspiracy theorists.

I hope I'm wrong, but I wonder if this group are planning to throw a bit of weight around to 'defend' LWS? The words on their website suggest they like to get their retaliation in first...
'We exist to stop the indoctrination and brainwashing before it occurs, rather than afterwards.'
Hope all goes well, best wishes to all the women attending.

I don't know about it, though I heard Lynne Pinches may be involved?

https://savageminds.substack.com/p/anatomy-of-the-near-murder-of-kellie

WPUK co-founder Ruth Serwotka called Keen a “domesticated zombie” and another leftist feminist called Keen a “Nazi Barbie,” a slur which made its way over to the Australian Parliament. The language employed by these women is important because amidst the hoards clamouring for a piece of Keen’s life were signs which often reflected these defamatory remarks made over the years. The arguments quickly moved from Keen being a collaborator with the far-right to simple claims that she was no feminist, an identity Keen has always avoided. Scottish writer, Claire Heuchan wrote in 2020, “I’d choose standing by a steaming pile of dogshit over getting anywhere near Posie Parker” and that same year called Keen a “White Supremacist Barbie.” Heuchan is now a trustee of FiLiA which has yet to put out a single statement about the violence enacted against Keen and others last week.

^ It was her response to all this sort of thing.

Yes it's in the web archive:

web.archive.org/web/20210207110807/spinster.xyz/@PosieParker

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Oh really? I couldn't find it in any news articles anywhere, aside from one from pinknews where they worded it ''She has been accused of using a barbie profile pic'' rather than ''she has used a barbie profile pic''. It's the kind of thing you would expect to see in news articles everywhere if it were solidly true and I can find nothing except the pinknews article. On twitter I found people saying it had been photoshopped.

There is a picture of a barbie wearing a swazsticker that they are saying she used as a profile picture. It is fake and photoshopped.

That was her profile pic on Spinster a few years back, it's not fake but they're taking it out of context, she was taking the piss out of people calling her "fascist Barbie".

On that reddit thread they are posting a link to posieisafascist.com which is full of misinformation. There is a picture of a barbie wearing a swazsticker that they are saying she used as a profile picture. It is fake and photoshopped.

There is also a clip where she says ''Fascism is the new word for legend''. This is framed to make her look like a nazi when she's actually saying it in response to people chanting ''Posie Parker is a fascist'' in the background. She's making a joke, albeit a careless one that has been weaponised.

They are saying she marches with nazis when she doesn't. They gatecrashed her event, she didn't invite them.

This is so dangerous. It's painting the people attending her rally as nazis when they are not. There is a youtube video with over a million views also repeating these lies. There's going to be all these people at the counter protest that are enraged at her and falsely think she and the people there are nazis. It takes one of these people to lose the plot and attack someone based on lies to maybe seriously hurt someone.

I was banned from that thread so am unable to post in it how this is all fake. If someone else can feel free to.

All this does for me is make me want to support her more. I despise lying.

I'm going to LWS - see you there 💜

There's another protest in the morning...