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Moleskine sales will shoot up...

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itsabitdamp · 06/06/2024 07:36

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HellonHeels · 08/07/2024 13:02

Saw the HP moleskines at Liverpool Street this morning so sales are going ahead despite the rantings.

Any updates on the distress caused? Possibly weeping into a Leuchturm.

inamarina · 10/06/2024 10:39

NitroNine · 10/06/2024 00:49

@Maerchentante
Going to have to doubt that German fluency, too, given she seems to use Bildungsroman with the sense of it referring to her own development. I mean, she does have an astonishing case of main character syndrome so there’s a certain amount of logic there, but the utter grandiloquence of her prose grates dreadfully:
Also to clarify: I started using Moleskines in 2003-ish when Leuchtturm didn't exist in modern form! They produced notebooks starting in 2005, then I bought one in Dussmann when they were mostly still in Germany only ca 2009. Moleskines were my sentimental Bildungsroman notebook.

Seems like she was either using Moleskines to document her very own development as the main character in the story of her life or she just thought the word “Bildungsroman” sounded impressive.

NitroNine · 10/06/2024 00:49

@Maerchentante
Going to have to doubt that German fluency, too, given she seems to use Bildungsroman with the sense of it referring to her own development. I mean, she does have an astonishing case of main character syndrome so there’s a certain amount of logic there, but the utter grandiloquence of her prose grates dreadfully:
Also to clarify: I started using Moleskines in 2003-ish when Leuchtturm didn't exist in modern form! They produced notebooks starting in 2005, then I bought one in Dussmann when they were mostly still in Germany only ca 2009. Moleskines were my sentimental Bildungsroman notebook.

zzplex · 09/06/2024 22:34

Tidypidy · 07/06/2024 15:49

TK Maxx often has Moleskine notebooks and diaries at a good price. (Misses point of thread)

This. Also Leuchtturm, whose notebooks I really like too - slightly different shape to Mokeskine and the pages are numbered. Although as a German company which highlights it was founded in 1917, I do wonder what the company was doing during WW2...

Don't know if I've ever paid full price - either on offer at Cass Art or TKMaxx.

RueTroussevache · 09/06/2024 22:21

They're quite lovely.

Moleskine sales will shoot up...
Moleskine sales will shoot up...
WhereYouLeftIt · 09/06/2024 20:51

WhereYouLeftIt · 09/06/2024 20:50

This thread reminded me it's about that time to order my new 18-month diary.

Oops, posted too soon.

I'd normally go for a personal-size, this one's a bit bigger but it'll fit in my handbag OK, so - mischief managed! Grin

WhereYouLeftIt · 09/06/2024 20:50

WhereYouLeftIt · 07/06/2024 12:18

I like them.

I've been using their 18-month pocket diaries for years now, I find the blank page useful to make additional notes without having to write tiny/illegibly. I get a new one mid-year, doesn't matter when because the old one I'm using runs to the end of the year, and when I get to the end of the year, I'm definitely using the new one by then so that I can be noting appointments in January onwards.

This thread reminded me it's about that time to order my new 18-month diary.

Moleskine sales will shoot up...
Moleskine sales will shoot up...
ClaudiaWinklepanda · 07/06/2024 15:59

WhereYouLeftIt · 07/06/2024 12:21

I don't think they have responded. The wittering about "This is the email @moleskine sent me" I think just refers to the marketing e-mail that set this rant a-running.

Ah, that makes sense now.

Maerchentante · 07/06/2024 15:55

Will see if I can get the HP range in Germany and somehow justify the money spent on it. Of course, I'll give myself a stern talking to after ;)

Had a chuckle at the CV link posted upthread. Claims to be fluent in German (including Mittelhochdeutsch). Now German can be useful, but why anyone would say they are fluent in a language that hasn't been spoken for almost 700 years is beyond me.

Tidypidy · 07/06/2024 15:49

TK Maxx often has Moleskine notebooks and diaries at a good price. (Misses point of thread)

EdithStourton · 07/06/2024 15:48

SabrinaThwaite · 07/06/2024 12:50

I sincerely hope that's just a typo - otherwise the Oxford English department has very much gone down hill.

I looked it up and apparently 'spright' is archaic, and means spirit, mind, soul, state of mind.

There is an anthem ('Never weatherbeaten sail') which talks about sprite/spright in the sense of spirit.

But 'spright-like'? I'm not sure what's going on there.

ElephantsDontReadFantasy · 07/06/2024 15:38

Redshoeblueshoe · 07/06/2024 15:20

They are lovely, unfortunately I'll have to stick to home bargains for my notebooks

I know. Would love one. But even if I could stretch to the book £8 postage is too steep (and more than I’d normally pay for a notebook on its own!)

CheeseSandwichRiskAssessment · 07/06/2024 15:30

NotbloodyGivingupYet · 07/06/2024 13:52

I dunno, is a gender essentialist something you can get from Waitrose? Like their essential olives?

From the JL internal magazine ruckus we know they consider gender essentialism essential.

Redshoeblueshoe · 07/06/2024 15:20

They are lovely, unfortunately I'll have to stick to home bargains for my notebooks

NotbloodyGivingupYet · 07/06/2024 13:52

DeanElderberry · 07/06/2024 13:17

Gender essentialists (whatever they are, some kind of person who goes in for gender) may believe that. Gender critics, who don't believe in gender, know that sex is chromosomal and sometimes complicated.

I dunno, is a gender essentialist something you can get from Waitrose? Like their essential olives?

Jungkooky · 07/06/2024 13:31

CrossPurposes · 07/06/2024 11:22

The whole site is a 503.

The Potter notebook ad is still on their Instagram as of now.

Ahhh OK thank you, I'll take another look later.

DeanElderberry · 07/06/2024 13:17

Gender essentialists (whatever they are, some kind of person who goes in for gender) may believe that. Gender critics, who don't believe in gender, know that sex is chromosomal and sometimes complicated.

CheeseSandwichRiskAssessment · 07/06/2024 13:10

Those comments have such an entitled tone.

Hopefully moleskine responds, although what is there to say really. "We concluded that a HP collab would increase our bottom line, unlike bending to your demands." Maybe Letchuum could get into the fray too.

Helleofabore · 07/06/2024 13:09

inamarina · 07/06/2024 12:47

I thought so too at first, but this is how she describes herself on Twitter: “To this gender essentialist cult, because I was born with a genetic malformation in my hymen and vagina, I wasn’t a woman. But I am: and so are are trans women who also have surgery like mine to form a vagina opening.”

That is interesting. I never thought a malformed hymen or vagina caused a female to not be female.

And sadly, with the level of twisting that we see, this could also mean anything. But it feels like this person is all about PoMo and what they say they are, they are. And very performative such as only using Moleskin as a writer etc, I have a teen who is all about 'the aethetics' who says things like this.

SabrinaThwaite · 07/06/2024 12:50

SinnerBoy · 07/06/2024 11:29

spright-like

I assume they meant sprite? Another candidate for A-Level English. Where do they find these numpties?

I sincerely hope that's just a typo - otherwise the Oxford English department has very much gone down hill.

CatonmyKeyboard · 07/06/2024 12:49

What? If she's a woman born with a imperforate hymen, well, so was my mother. That never made her male. DSDs are sex-specific.

Of course, words may mean something else to a vulnerable sprightly gadfly.

inamarina · 07/06/2024 12:47

Helleofabore · 07/06/2024 04:24

I assumed this person was a male person who was trans. Have I assumed incorrectly?

I thought so too at first, but this is how she describes herself on Twitter: “To this gender essentialist cult, because I was born with a genetic malformation in my hymen and vagina, I wasn’t a woman. But I am: and so are are trans women who also have surgery like mine to form a vagina opening.”

CatonmyKeyboard · 07/06/2024 12:47

Does she mean sprite?

Not that that's the worst thing about that blurb.