Page 2 | Maya Forstater on Jeremy Vine this lunchtime

saveforthat · 2024-06-03T12:06:12+00:00

Worth listening to on catch up if you can. Also talking about VAT on private school fees.

GailBlancheViola · 03/06/2024 18:25

Justme56 · 03/06/2024 18:08

I think the trans person was Joanne Monck. Joanne transitioned at age 58 in 2014. From online information they work in DEI and advise Sussex Police (and other organisations) on trans issues.

Well colour me surprised! Working in DEI and for Sussex Police well, well, well.

Justme56 · 03/06/2024 18:08

I think the trans person was Joanne Monck. Joanne transitioned at age 58 in 2014. From online information they work in DEI and advise Sussex Police (and other organisations) on trans issues.

Underthinker · 03/06/2024 17:32

Missed this. Did Maya give any comment on the Tory Equality Act proposal? IIRC her thoughts on how the law needed to change were along the lines of what Sunak announced today weren't they?

GailBlancheViola · 03/06/2024 15:33

Mermoose · 03/06/2024 15:20

Speaking generally, whenever a TW claims that they are perceived as female I am interested to know how likely that is and google them. I've yet to find that it is likely. I don't at all think that "you can always tell" but male people who wish to be seen as female tend to believe they do even when they very obviously don't.

Passing isn't a good or fair criteria for whether someone uses a space or not but even if it were, it would never work because people who don't pass think they do.

Well, the caller did not sound female for a start. Did you note the You can't deny me that in their response, says it all.

Mermoose · 03/06/2024 15:20

Speaking generally, whenever a TW claims that they are perceived as female I am interested to know how likely that is and google them. I've yet to find that it is likely. I don't at all think that "you can always tell" but male people who wish to be seen as female tend to believe they do even when they very obviously don't.

Passing isn't a good or fair criteria for whether someone uses a space or not but even if it were, it would never work because people who don't pass think they do.

Helleofabore · 03/06/2024 15:20

Fenlandia · 03/06/2024 15:02

Maya did well in the face of the trans caller pulling out all the classics such as "I am female because my birth certificate says so" (so much for 'just admin') and "I have been on a female ward lots of times and never had a problem" (silence is not consent).

The more interactions like that the better as far as I can see. Those interactions blow away the 'vulnerable and marginalised' cover with fully visible male entitlement.

Fenlandia · 03/06/2024 15:02

Maya did well in the face of the trans caller pulling out all the classics such as "I am female because my birth certificate says so" (so much for 'just admin') and "I have been on a female ward lots of times and never had a problem" (silence is not consent).

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saveforthat · 03/06/2024 13:29

changeison · 03/06/2024 13:27

is he doing his usual approach of pretending he doesn't understand and wishes everyone could just get along and be kind?

No not at all. He was letting his guests speak and Maya was great (talking to a trans caller).

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changeison · 03/06/2024 13:27

is he doing his usual approach of pretending he doesn't understand and wishes everyone could just get along and be kind?