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Heylo · 30/05/2024 06:04

Remember time this insane Labour TRA rounded on Miriam Cates for sharing her experience of a trans woman staring at her in a toilet and her feeling scared https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-64321754

do not vote Labour in. Keep this out of our children’s schools, keep women’s spaces safe and help lesbians stop being hassled. Pls do not vote this madness In

Lloyd Russell-Moyle

MP Lloyd Russell-Moyle sorry for tone in gender debate

Lloyd Russell-Moyle was told to "moderate his language" after accusing a Tory MP of "transphobic" remarks.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-64321754

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ChristinaXYZ · 31/05/2024 19:47

AlisonDonut · 30/05/2024 06:08

But not due to this behaviour, which is fully endorsed by Labour.

Exactly. The Labour leadership neither disciplines this kind or bullying nor apologises to bullied female MPs like Rosie Duffield. Whilst Miriam Cates is not a Labour MP I still think she is owed an apology from the Labour leadership after they failed to discipline RLM for this.

maltravers · 31/05/2024 11:59

I think it’s less her visibility and more the certainty that she would be bringing gender identity front and centre of all hustings/discussions with LRM who would answer and was bound to come up with plenty of “yes, lesbians have penises you transphobe!” type comments, which the tabloids would lap up. Your approved Labour candidate probably adopts the usual word salad to make it less appealing to report.

duc748 · 31/05/2024 11:45

Does KJK have much visibility beyond MN? I'd be surprised if avoiding her against Moyle was a significant factor in Labour's action. But I guess we'll never know for sure.

maltravers · 31/05/2024 10:41

jotajil · 30/05/2024 11:00

In reply to the news that Lloyd Russel-Moyle The Brighton Kemptown MP has been suspended due to a complaint made 8 years ago.
My questions:
Why is he only now being suspended if the complaint was made 8 years ago?
Could it be anything to do with the fact that Kelly-Jay Keen the new Party of Women is standing against him? https://www.partyofwomen.org
Is he running away?
Anyone know what the complaint was about?

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You could be right here. Imagine the optics in the press of LRM ranting away about GI issues after a few prods by KJK. Not the “Labour message” they want the media amplifying, I’m sure. Is it too late for her to run in another seat of interest?

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duc748 · 31/05/2024 00:12

Labour seem to have this almost magical gift, of offering new reasons on an almost daily basis.

ShambalaAnna · 30/05/2024 21:09

There are plenty of reasons I'd not vote Labour, though finding out about this incident is a new one on me.

AlisonDonut · 30/05/2024 21:07

SinnerBoy · 30/05/2024 20:55

I think he's on a thread where someone one else wrote it.

Possibly me, I call him that all the time and yes, from Dennis and Clive's Queens Speech podcast. I kinda forget that not everyone listens to it.

SinnerBoy · 30/05/2024 20:55

I think he's on a thread where someone one else wrote it.

Marjoriefrobisher · 30/05/2024 15:00

duc748 · 30/05/2024 14:00

The 'ginger gender finger jabber' is genius. Did you bake it yourself? 😄

No. Shameless theft from I think Dennis Kavanagh? Can’t remember now

jotajil · 30/05/2024 14:45

Well I thought the Kempt town labour MP whatisname Moyle, was running away from the possibilty of facing Kelly-Jay Keen, Party of Women, as an oponent! Apparently he has been having nightmares, waking up with a bloated red face, as in the video, and spluttering in an incoherent rage, shivering and muttering her name.

OliviaFlaversham · 30/05/2024 14:01

I can’t think of anything that would make me vote Labour now. They’re utterly deplorable. Being ‘better than the Tories’ isn’t enough when they are such bedfellows.

duc748 · 30/05/2024 14:00

The 'ginger gender finger jabber' is genius. Did you bake it yourself? 😄

Marjoriefrobisher · 30/05/2024 13:59

NoBinturongsHereMate · 30/05/2024 13:36

I doubt it had much thought beyond '99.9% is a synonym for "almost all" and doesn't fully commit me to either side.'

He forgot (a) what happens when you apply a small percentage to a large number (such as the UK population) and (b) that women can do sums.

He also forgot how not to make a total arse of himself

EasternStandard · 30/05/2024 13:53

NoBinturongsHereMate · 30/05/2024 13:36

I doubt it had much thought beyond '99.9% is a synonym for "almost all" and doesn't fully commit me to either side.'

He forgot (a) what happens when you apply a small percentage to a large number (such as the UK population) and (b) that women can do sums.

I think he forgets women exist full stop

That’s why he can’t hear anyone talking about the issue

BezMills · 30/05/2024 13:47

I expect you've got that spot on @NoBinturongsHereMate

NoBinturongsHereMate · 30/05/2024 13:36

BezMills · 30/05/2024 08:32

When you lay it out like that, it does make me wonder... whether he pulled that number out of a spreadsheet, or somewhere the sun doesn't shine

I doubt it had much thought beyond '99.9% is a synonym for "almost all" and doesn't fully commit me to either side.'

He forgot (a) what happens when you apply a small percentage to a large number (such as the UK population) and (b) that women can do sums.

EasternStandard · 30/05/2024 13:25

BloodyHellKenAgain · 30/05/2024 10:08

😂
To be fair to the young female canvasser she didn't flinch once and just wrote down all my concerns re: Labour and single sex provision etc.
Now they have my views and address I'm going to be one of the first in the stocks though, should they get in 😂

I said I’m raising this issue

You can’t say it’s not on the doorstep

Tell your leader that. Actually it was a good convo

Marjoriefrobisher · 30/05/2024 13:20

GailBlancheViola · 30/05/2024 12:25

Careful, you'll have the Labour shill that frequents these Boards down on you like a ton of bricks in their mind it is okay for Miriam Cates to be treated like that because of her faith.

All those thinking that suspending LRM was Keir Starmer getting tough, think again I doubt it had anything to do with him after all he said and did absolutely nothing when the above happened and it wasn't only Miriam Cates LRM targeted he went for Rosie Duffield as well.

KS goes into high dudgeon about a comment on his 1% of women have a penis because Brianna Ghey's mother was visiting Parliament that day, but abuse of women by one of his own MPs? Tumbleweed.

God Starmer is awful. Just dreadful.

BezMills · 30/05/2024 13:06

It's not bad news. Except if you're him or on his team...

Rightsraptor · 30/05/2024 13:00

I imagine he has a whole, long history of undesirable behaviour covering quite a few bases and Starmer & co have been waiting to get rid of him.

At least we can infer from this move that he doesn't represent the image the LP wants to present right now. Which seems vaguely hopeful.

SofaThrow · 30/05/2024 12:54

Careful, you'll have the Labour shill that frequents these Boards down on you like a ton of bricks in their mind it is okay for Miriam Cates to be treated like that because of her faith

Yes she is generally hated on here.

SofaThrow · 30/05/2024 12:53

WhatWillSwingIt · 30/05/2024 10:51

Please vote tactically to keep GC MPs in - so if your MP is Kemi Badenoch, Ash Regan, Joanna Cherry, Miriam Cates, Rosie Duffield, Liz Truss, Suella Braverman, etc - vote for them, not party politics.

Yes I agree with this. I do think that people are giving this real thought now.

GailBlancheViola · 30/05/2024 12:25

PomegranateOfPersephone · 30/05/2024 11:03

@Heylo thank you for this reminder of how fantastic Miriam Cates is and what LRM is really like.

Careful, you'll have the Labour shill that frequents these Boards down on you like a ton of bricks in their mind it is okay for Miriam Cates to be treated like that because of her faith.

All those thinking that suspending LRM was Keir Starmer getting tough, think again I doubt it had anything to do with him after all he said and did absolutely nothing when the above happened and it wasn't only Miriam Cates LRM targeted he went for Rosie Duffield as well.

KS goes into high dudgeon about a comment on his 1% of women have a penis because Brianna Ghey's mother was visiting Parliament that day, but abuse of women by one of his own MPs? Tumbleweed.

PomegranateOfPersephone · 30/05/2024 11:03

@Heylo thank you for this reminder of how fantastic Miriam Cates is and what LRM is really like.