Starmer stabs anothe Black female Labour candidate in the back

Whilst I think this is a massive shame it’s a bit 6 of one and half a dozen of the other. Labour can’t win here and will end up pleasing no one, except the very centre ground which is what they’re going for. They are simply preempting what was bound to happen anyway once the RW press started their trawling tweets. They would have had another Azhar Ali scenario on their hands which would have become a massive distraction. I think people need to remember that they are running to be the central government, not the opposition or some fringe party that shouts from the sidelines.

I don’t personally think someone should be deselected for liking tweets from years ago. However her recent comments about a vote for Palestine were incredibly unwise. I completely agree that whatever people’s personal view points on Israel/Gaza the focus in the U.K. in areas with large Muslim and Jewish populations definitely needs to be on decreasing tensions and not inflaming them.

@StandingMyGround888 no. That's true. Sorry. I felt it was relevant to the discussion, though because of the ruthless nature of the Party purges.

The ruthlessness applies to all the parties, and the divisive and oppositional type of politics we have in this country is very bad for everybody.

She's not black... for a start?

We are living in very strange times. The labour party has history of expunging people it didn't approve of. It's about political expediency and not about democracy. Starmer, Tory lite, Blair prototype/clone/facsimile no. 2, who can't define what a woman is and isn't interested, wants to get into power. In order to get into power one has to be Machiavellian. Destroy your enemy.

Using propaganda as a weapon to destroy your enemy is also an old trick. But when all else fails, just have them killed. Metaphorically speaking. For now.
https://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk/article/democracy-and-the-labour-party-the-case-of-stroud/

Just in general, not just politics, I don't like this practice for employers policing the SM use of their employees when it isn't affecting their ability to do their jobs, and also of prospective employers trawling though the same before interview. And yes, I know being an MP isn't being an employee, but I see the parallels. How many of us couldn't look back at old Facebook posts and find something, shall we say, unwise?

She wasn't just expressing support for Palestine. She was expressing it while denegrating her opponent for being 'pro-Israel'. That's divisive.

Why is support for Palestine divisive @IdaPrentice ? Many Jewish people, including Israelis, support a state for Palestinians. World leaders have voiced support for Palestinians, even Zionists like Biden.

Yet Labour candidates are not allowed to . Who or what are they allowed to support then ? David Hare wrote a TV play called Abscence of War about this very problem. The fictional Labour leader - played brilliantly by John Thaw - explodes with exasperation because he is ' only allowed to talk about bloody hospitals!'

The weird thing is there is a broader range of opinions in the Conservative Party. David Cameron said Israel will never have peace while settlers are killing people in the West Bank for example. You could be deselected for that in Starmers party. You certainly wouldn't remain in the cabinet. Where are the screeching headlines calling him a toxic antisemite? When does Big Dave's re-education course begin. I don't recall his letter of apology. We'll just have to live with the mystery.

Also - the comparisons with Rosie Duffield are ridiculous. She said biological sex is real, which is very much NOT the same thing as being racist as any idiot can tell.

For your information: I am Jewish and I am relieved to see Keir Starmer taking a stand on antisemitism, which those tweets very much were. This is not "whipping up hysteria" and for you to say so is somewhat offensive. And most Jewish people view Jewish Voice for Labour as an absolute joke.

So many other things are wrong and offensive in your post but I can't be bothered with a line by line critique. I'll just leave you with this - please don't presume to speak for Jewish people and to decide what is and is not antisemitism.

And then suddenly a tweet from however many years ago becomes this big issue just now, in time to dump her and like DA not give her enough time to consider standing as an independent. And yet wasn't important enough on two other occassions.

The antisemitic tweet they read out on Newsnight was from last week.

I am really not sure what your point is here but I think that the anti-semitism is absolutely real and alive and kicking in the Labour party. It's not 'hysteria' to point this out. I am glad that Starmer is weeding these people out. Good fucking riddance.

According to that article in Jewish News, it's about her own tweets, not accidentally liking something from years ago. She tweeted that a vote for her was a vote for Palestine. And as a thoughtful person quoted said, in that constituency Muslim and Jewish people used to be on good terms, so now is not a good time to put out such a divisive and tribal message.

What do you mean by the ‘pro-Zionist wing of the Labour Party’ @IwantToRetire

It was antisemitic. She admitted she knew it was antisemitic. She just disagrees that she should be held to account for it.

Or even more grotesquely is cynically whipping up hysteria about anti semitism, because of the very real and serious situation in Gaza, for their own cheap political power grab

Fucking hell. 🙄

Yes.

There is a reason the LP is into gender ideology, and prone to antisemitism.

It's because those are where identity politics gets you.

Certain types on the left really hate any black Tory MPs for the same reason. They are called all sorts of unmentionable names because they are SUPPOSED to be left wing. It's appalling.

Absolutely. It's offensive in the extreme to assume all brown or black people no matter their background are some kind of hive mind. It's infantalising and imperialistic. As if poor brown people are too stupid to make decisions about themselves. They are too stupid to know who to vote for.

Exactly! He suddenly knew what a woman was as well. The horror!

"How dare Starmer attack women and try to ruin their livelihoods? Doesn't he know that's MY job?"

I heard Owen Jones having a rant on LBC and claiming that Starmer was attacking women of colour. Bonkers.

Anti semitism needs to be removed from the labour party.
Plus considering the appalling things tory mps have done and still be kept in their jobs I would prefer KS taking this approach.
I don’t believe her sex or the colour of her skin is the issue at all.
FS does not represent all women of colour any more than I represent all disabled women. People can and should be judged on their actions.

They messed up. AV is a dogs breakfast. Cameron used them as a mudguard. Coalition is about red lines.