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CaptainCarrotsBigSword · 29/05/2024 20:15

Hopefully he will be kicked out permanently, but I am suspicious of the timing. I wonder if labour are trying to stop the KJK bomb going off in debates and LRM will slither back in after the election.

endofthelinefinally · 29/05/2024 20:11

Does that mean Labour will field another candidate in Brighton?

BackToLurk · 29/05/2024 20:07

KohlaParasaurus · 29/05/2024 19:36

Interesting. I'm very curious as to what has precipitated this action at this time.

The Labour Party won't want a repeat of Rochdale, having to suspend a candidate once they're on the ballot. There are rumours that there will be more suspensions between now and the deadline for candidates to be confirmed. It looks a lot like the party is getting rid of some of the looser canons.. I feel like I may have underestimated Starmer. He's possibly more ruthless than he appeared.

WickedSerious · 29/05/2024 20:00

NiceNiche · 29/05/2024 18:29

Well he is one of the reasons I feel unable to vote Labour. The behaviour of his researcher but particularly LRM in the commons was appalling and as far as I am aware was considered unworthy of any disciplinary measures. As far as I’m concerned a Parliament without that vile man can only be a good thing.

By the way, has anyone else noticed that he now sits as close as he possibly can to Rosie Duffield in the Commons? Even when there are rows of empty benches, he’s right in front of her.

She should've put chewing gum in his hair.

Theyhadsomehoneyandplentyofmoney · 29/05/2024 20:00

GennyLec · 29/05/2024 19:52

Carly May Kavanagh. Screams at babies. Nice person. Not.

There’s a theme here isn’t there.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11231853/Fascist-Labour-MPs-aide-screams-father-holding-baby.html#v-634838579664602554

MotherEarthisaTerf · 29/05/2024 19:59

Too bad so sad

GennyLec · 29/05/2024 19:52

Ecstaticmotion · 29/05/2024 19:41

Could you share what you mean about the behaviour of his researcher? He's had a few so I'm not sure which one you mean. Lansman?

Carly May Kavanagh. Screams at babies. Nice person. Not.

duc748 · 29/05/2024 19:42

He's still an MP, though. Hs constituents aren't being denied representation.

Ecstaticmotion · 29/05/2024 19:41

Could you share what you mean about the behaviour of his researcher? He's had a few so I'm not sure which one you mean. Lansman?

AGlinnerOfHope · 29/05/2024 19:38

Is this the recent policy being voted on about suspending MPs accused of various offences?

It is concerning that anyone can be suspended as a result of allegations- less so where someone else can do their job. Serious when a constituency loses it's representation as a result.

KohlaParasaurus · 29/05/2024 19:36

Interesting. I'm very curious as to what has precipitated this action at this time.

Runor · 29/05/2024 19:34

Anyone else noticing the “I don’t know what it was, but whatever it was, I certainly didn’t do it” element of LRM’s statement? 😆

I do agree with Piggy though - waiting until this close to an election and then making accusations which remove a sitting MP who would otherwise stand at the GE isn’t right.

TheBanffie · 29/05/2024 19:33

'serious complaint' has an air of possibly being actions that are against employment or criminal law - does Labour disclose such information? Given that he is a public servant and still an MP I want to know.

nothingcomestonothing · 29/05/2024 19:33

StripedPiggy · 29/05/2024 19:11

I’m certainly no fan of LRM, but this sets a very dangerous precedent for our democracy. A sitting MP has effectively been removed from the job to which he was democratically elected because of untested allegations which he denies. Whatever he is alleged to have done, he is entitled to due process and the presumption of innocence.

Anyone who supports his suspension should be very careful what they wish for. Malicious, politically motivated allegations can be made against your allies as well as your opponents.

This is what Labour do though. I'm not saying it's right, but it's not just happened to him. Didn't hear LRM complain when it was done to a female candidate who didn't chant the mantra:

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/labour-suspends-hackney-london-by-election-candidate-laura-pascal-b1132443.html

Labour suspends London by-election candidate over 'transphobia' complaint

The accusations are believed to relate to tweets that Laura Pascal posted in July in which she said 'trans women are not female. By definition they are male'

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/labour-suspends-hackney-london-by-election-candidate-laura-pascal-b1132443.html

EasternStandard · 29/05/2024 19:29

StripedPiggy · 29/05/2024 19:11

I’m certainly no fan of LRM, but this sets a very dangerous precedent for our democracy. A sitting MP has effectively been removed from the job to which he was democratically elected because of untested allegations which he denies. Whatever he is alleged to have done, he is entitled to due process and the presumption of innocence.

Anyone who supports his suspension should be very careful what they wish for. Malicious, politically motivated allegations can be made against your allies as well as your opponents.

Any allegations should be tested as anyone can end a career

Not that I rate him at all, his outburst should have been disciplined in some way

IwantToRetire · 29/05/2024 19:27

(Already posted on other thread)

Not saying there isn't anything else, but this is the only thing that came up from a search of 8 years ago.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/labour-splits-up-local-party-after-dispute-over-bullying-67tw3bh5v

Can be read at https://archive.ph/OZnPd

Though nothing to indicate this is were the complaint originated from.

It could after all be a personal complaint not related to his politics.

Labour splits up local party after dispute over bullying

The largest local Labour party in Britain has been ordered to split into three and its chairman has been expelled following claims of bullying and intimidation.Brighton and Hove district party was

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/labour-splits-up-local-party-after-dispute-over-bullying-67tw3bh5v

BreadInCaptivity · 29/05/2024 19:27

Eek ...just prior to an election

BreadInCaptivity · 29/05/2024 19:27

I think we can assume the allegation is very serious and seen to be a threat to Labours campaign for them to do this just

SabrinaThwaite · 29/05/2024 19:24

What else could Labour do? Sit on a serious allegation and allow him stand as a Labour candidate and risk it coming out that the party knew but did nothing?

Meanwhile…

Lloyd Russel Moyle suspended
OvaHere · 29/05/2024 19:21

He should have faced serious consequences for his blatant intimidation of a fellow MP in the House.

senua · 29/05/2024 19:20

this sets a very dangerous precedent for our democracy.
Does it? Isn't it a Labour Party rule rather than a HoC rule.
He says "these processes within the party take too long."

Theyhadsomehoneyandplentyofmoney · 29/05/2024 19:20

LizzieSiddal · 29/05/2024 19:13

Not surprised in the slightest. A man who can’t control his temper, even in the workplace, has had a “serious” complaint made against him. One less nasty misogynist in Parliament. A few more to go!

If it hadn’t been the Labour Party he’d have been torpedoed long ago. They hate women so he got away with it. So what on earth has happened. Curioser and curioser.

ATM we only have his words. We know how unbalanced he is. He’s got his words in before the party have said anything. Looks like He’s got something to hide.

BackToLurk · 29/05/2024 19:19

StripedPiggy · 29/05/2024 19:11

I’m certainly no fan of LRM, but this sets a very dangerous precedent for our democracy. A sitting MP has effectively been removed from the job to which he was democratically elected because of untested allegations which he denies. Whatever he is alleged to have done, he is entitled to due process and the presumption of innocence.

Anyone who supports his suspension should be very careful what they wish for. Malicious, politically motivated allegations can be made against your allies as well as your opponents.

No he hasn’t. He’s been suspended from the party. He sits as an independent MP until parliament is dissolved

OvaHere · 29/05/2024 19:19

duc748 · 29/05/2024 19:03

He'll get no sympathy from me, after his vile behaviour on more than one occasion. But the Party's reaction does give me pause for thought; it seems hardly fair or transparent, with echoes of the way Diane Abbott has been treated. Why was he not disciplined after the Miriam Cates incident? And yet, there was a deafening silence from Labour then. They can hardly claim the moral high ground now.

Edited

Agreed. Not sorry in the slightest he's gone but it's weird on Labour's part.

SharonEllis · 29/05/2024 19:18

StripedPiggy · 29/05/2024 19:11

I’m certainly no fan of LRM, but this sets a very dangerous precedent for our democracy. A sitting MP has effectively been removed from the job to which he was democratically elected because of untested allegations which he denies. Whatever he is alleged to have done, he is entitled to due process and the presumption of innocence.

Anyone who supports his suspension should be very careful what they wish for. Malicious, politically motivated allegations can be made against your allies as well as your opponents.

But this is the process. He has had serious allegations made against him so he is suspended while they are investigated. You can't have a candidate who has been suspended going into an election, surely?