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LaPalmaLlama · 29/05/2024 23:12

I’m actually quite impressed. Didn’t think KS had the balls but he’s offed two in two days. Now’s the time to do it though.

I would put money on this allegation coming “ from within”

StainlessSteelMouse · 29/05/2024 23:06

Not a fan of LRM by any means. Quite apart from him being a massive misogynistic twat, I was always amused that the secretary of the Socialist Campaign Group was a buy-to-rent landlord.

But yeah, this looks very much timed for a purge of Corbynite MPs. Keir is more ruthless than he's given credit for, and some of his entourage are extremely nasty.

But I wonder how smart Keir is. Rochdale bit him on the arse because he thought he could solve Labour's antisemitism problem just by getting ride of Corbynites. It turned out to be a bigger problem than that. If Keir has convinced himself that bad behaviour in the PLP is restricted to his factional enemies, I've got a bridge to sell him.

Bobbotgegrinch · 29/05/2024 22:43

StripedPiggy · 29/05/2024 19:11

I’m certainly no fan of LRM, but this sets a very dangerous precedent for our democracy. A sitting MP has effectively been removed from the job to which he was democratically elected because of untested allegations which he denies. Whatever he is alleged to have done, he is entitled to due process and the presumption of innocence.

Anyone who supports his suspension should be very careful what they wish for. Malicious, politically motivated allegations can be made against your allies as well as your opponents.

While I agree with you on it setting a dangerous precedent that's ripe for abuse, technically he's not been removed from his job.

He's still an MP until Friday, when parliament is dissolved and we no longer have any MPs. At that point he's no longer the elected representative for that constituency, and has no job. As is the case for every current MP.

And he's still free to run for re-election if he wants to, just as an independent instead of the labour party candidate. He wouldn't win of course, mostly because independents almost never do, and also because he's an odious little twerp.

But yes, it is a potential way to cause utter chaos. Put an allegation in against the PM a few days before parliament dissolves and watch the shit hit the fan!

EasternStandard · 29/05/2024 22:34

JanesLittleGirl · 29/05/2024 22:14

Honestly, I was just taking the piss about a poster on the other thread that claimed that they had a plan.

Heh that was amusing but also a curious plan

LoobiJee · 29/05/2024 22:28

SofaThrow · 29/05/2024 22:22

Bloody hell we were as well...I wonder....

Is the plan that Labour will be fielding a young female candidate instead? So that PoW will be up against a woman, not a man?

SofaThrow · 29/05/2024 22:22

JanesLittleGirl · 29/05/2024 21:54

10/10 to Labour for spiking KJK's guns. We were told that they had a plan. Seriously impressed.

Bloody hell we were as well...I wonder....

CaveMum · 29/05/2024 22:19

Just saw this on the 10 o clock news and came to see if there was a thread. Couldn’t have happened to a nicer bloke, good riddance!

JanesLittleGirl · 29/05/2024 22:14

EasternStandard · 29/05/2024 21:57

Do you think it was to do with KJK?

I feel like it’s more about purging the party generally

I suppose the question is if she were not standing would he still be out? I think likely

Edited

Honestly, I was just taking the piss about a poster on the other thread that claimed that they had a plan.

EasternStandard · 29/05/2024 21:57

JanesLittleGirl · 29/05/2024 21:54

10/10 to Labour for spiking KJK's guns. We were told that they had a plan. Seriously impressed.

Do you think it was to do with KJK?

I feel like it’s more about purging the party generally

I suppose the question is if she were not standing would he still be out? I think likely

JanesLittleGirl · 29/05/2024 21:54

10/10 to Labour for spiking KJK's guns. We were told that they had a plan. Seriously impressed.

EdithStourton · 29/05/2024 21:43

FOJN · 29/05/2024 20:54

It's why KJK chose his constituency to stand IMO. He's an awful man but I'm quite disappointed to be deprived of seeing him lose his shit with KJK during the election campaign. It would have been a very entertaining episode in Operation Let Them Speak.

I was so looking forward to a rerun of KJK vs Odious Man, with LRM rather than 'It's DOCTOR' Harrop in the hot seat.

I'd have added it to my list of YouTube links to watch when I need cheering up.

I used to be a nice, peaceable, largely non-vindictive type before this shit kicked off, but the sheer blinding quantity of misogyny on display these past few years has blown all my circuits.

Bloody odd timing though. Someone was sitting patiently on something for the moment of maximum damage.

IceQueenoftheWest · 29/05/2024 21:40

StripedPiggy · 29/05/2024 19:11

I’m certainly no fan of LRM, but this sets a very dangerous precedent for our democracy. A sitting MP has effectively been removed from the job to which he was democratically elected because of untested allegations which he denies. Whatever he is alleged to have done, he is entitled to due process and the presumption of innocence.

Anyone who supports his suspension should be very careful what they wish for. Malicious, politically motivated allegations can be made against your allies as well as your opponents.

This. I detest LRM but this is not a democratic way to behave - let us decide!

Dymaxion · 29/05/2024 21:39

I feel like I may have underestimated Starmer. He's possibly more ruthless than he appeared.

Oddy enough I heard some political journalist say something very similar this morning @BackToLurk whilst discussing how the political journalists tend to 'know' politicians better than the public. I certainly don't think you would have had the career he had, whilst being anything other than ruthless ?

Boiledbeetle · 29/05/2024 20:57

FOJN · 29/05/2024 20:54

It's why KJK chose his constituency to stand IMO. He's an awful man but I'm quite disappointed to be deprived of seeing him lose his shit with KJK during the election campaign. It would have been a very entertaining episode in Operation Let Them Speak.

I'm torn between being jubilant about him being suspended (don't give a flying fuck if he's being stitched up he should have been suspended a long time ago) and sad KJK won't get to trigger a temper tantrum from him!

FOJN · 29/05/2024 20:54

DialSquare · 29/05/2024 18:59

Hmmmmmm. Do you think it's because Labour know that he wouldn't be able hold his temper against KJK?

It's why KJK chose his constituency to stand IMO. He's an awful man but I'm quite disappointed to be deprived of seeing him lose his shit with KJK during the election campaign. It would have been a very entertaining episode in Operation Let Them Speak.

mirax · 29/05/2024 20:50

BackToLurk · 29/05/2024 19:19

No he hasn’t. He’s been suspended from the party. He sits as an independent MP until parliament is dissolved

Strange how simple facts such as these escape those minded to conspiracy thinking. The constituency hasnt lost its MP. If Labour declines to select him as a candidate again, he can stand as an independent candidate.

GrumpyMenopausalScathingWombWielder · 29/05/2024 20:40

GailBlancheViola · 29/05/2024 19:04

So that's his Bill re Gender Conversation Therapy dead in the water then?

Oh dear. How sad. Never mind.

MaySheWillStayRestingInMyArmsAgain · 29/05/2024 20:35

I've been working day and night since the election was called for success not only in Brighton Kemptown & Peacehaven but across Sussex. Yesterday…..

What, working night and day for almost one whole week, then?

Lloyd Russel Moyle suspended
BezMills · 29/05/2024 20:29

If he truly wishes to serve his community, he should stand as an independent.

SofaThrow · 29/05/2024 20:28

What will KJK do now?

jacksonlambsregulardisorder · 29/05/2024 20:28

mountaingoatsarehairy · 29/05/2024 20:24

It was me !!!! I am in a close by (and will be closely contested) seat and I told the Labour Stooge that canvassed on Saturday morning that I was a one issue voter and that I couldn’t vote Labour until they protected safe spaces for biological women.

he said he would make a note and pass it on.

Manifestation baby !

Tunnocks and a bottle of your choice to @mountaingoatsarehairy!

BackToLurk · 29/05/2024 20:26

CaptainCarrotsBigSword · 29/05/2024 20:15

Hopefully he will be kicked out permanently, but I am suspicious of the timing. I wonder if labour are trying to stop the KJK bomb going off in debates and LRM will slither back in after the election.

Good lord. He can't stand. There will be another candidate. They can't just swap him back in later. Doubt it's got anything to do with KJK.

Boiledbeetle · 29/05/2024 20:25

I've run out of words to describe this odious obnoxious snivelling cretinous Arsehole of a man so I'll just do a little happy dance!

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mountaingoatsarehairy · 29/05/2024 20:24

It was me !!!! I am in a close by (and will be closely contested) seat and I told the Labour Stooge that canvassed on Saturday morning that I was a one issue voter and that I couldn’t vote Labour until they protected safe spaces for biological women.

he said he would make a note and pass it on.

Manifestation baby !

endofthelinefinally · 29/05/2024 20:18

CaptainCarrotsBigSword · 29/05/2024 20:15

Hopefully he will be kicked out permanently, but I am suspicious of the timing. I wonder if labour are trying to stop the KJK bomb going off in debates and LRM will slither back in after the election.

Yes. The timing is odd.