Is it ok for Angela Rayner to address a sex segregated group?

The men don’t look very impressed; most of them are not even looking at her.

She’s been to a mosque and was in a Hindu temple this week. What are the odds on her visiting a church or synagogue? Very slim.

Context matters.

if she is making the rounds speaking to a variety of social groups and clubs, then the demographics of those organizations are going to vary.

if she is speaking at a place that actively segregates men and women, and the segregation is not equal, then it is problematic. Women need equal placement, view, and access to the speaker. So groups could be split left and right in identical sections, but not front and back or in different rooms.

Is it ok for AR to be in a segregated room?

Absolutely not, in a million years no. It’s 2024 and we are all over diversity and inclusion in every sphere of public life.

But we know where the women in this constituency are, and why.

It’s also pretty condescending not to hold all members of society up to the same inclusive scrutiny that we demand everywhere else.

I’m sure if she were in a room full of, say, retired white men, she’d be gobbing off about the patriarchy.

I haven’t agreed with some of her actions but her being ignored got to me too.

Agree. The recent debate in parliament where canting hypocrites went on about how dreadful Lee Anderson’s remarks were and she tried again and again to speak and was ignored spoke volumes. She’s just a tool to them - convenient to use to beat your opponents with but no recognition of her as a person.

Hardly 🤣
Sometimes I'm on them if I see them.
Pretty hilarious you are that bothered about me to post this though 😂

Leftoid double standards.

The investigation was concluded last year. They've just not been truthful about any of it because it suited them not to be.

I don't care much for Diane Abbott but there's no doubt she's been treated appallingly.

I feel bad about the Diane Abbott situation. I disagree strongly with what she wrote. But she did apologise and retract. There is no legitimate reason for this extended period of investigation. She and her constituents were entitled to certainty months ago. It would be sad to see a trail blazing and in many ways courageous career come to an end like this. And she also has family difficulties to deal with. And she has been relentlessly harassed by racists. It all seems unfair.

AdamRyan is on ALL the Liebour threads defending them.

Presumably they will soon be along to defend the Diane Abbott debacle. If anything were needed to prove what a liar KS is, surely this is it. He will do and say literally anything to get into power. He even let slip that he's a socialist yesterday which Rachel Reeves did her best to backtrack on.

What with him, the shit show of the Tories and that wanker Ed Davey falling off paddle boards for a photo op, this election is even more depressing than I anticipated.

Perhaps @AdamRyan thinks the video is a fake.
im sure she’ll be back to tell us.

Yep

What do you expect is AR. I cringed when watching this video. She is awful.

Are you saying this didn’t happen?

I don't think men should be in womens changing rooms so your point is entirely irrelevant.

To be honest I don't believe a thing the Torygraph prints about AR, they are desperate to discredit her. Can't have a northern working class woman doing well now can we?

They’ve all got shoes on dj it can’t be a mosque or someone’s house.

she sounds pleading and awkward.

Hm at this. All those men

Sir Steer Karmer
Sigh. Why do people do this?

No one will care about this, but they should. At least the half of the population who Labour see as second class citizens should.

Oh, and to make it worse, you do realise that senior Labour figures have been refusing to meet women’s groups for years?!

Strange Adam, that you think it is fine for the Muslim community to segregate by sex (for no obvious reason of safety, dignity or privacy) when it comes to providing information; but if female members of that community want to use a swimming pool, she would have to accept that some men are allowed in the women’s changing room, where she may be naked?

It's ok to bully people and call them 'bigots' if you know you can intimidate them into silence: that doesn't work when people hold their beliefs higher than yours. Hence her bending to this reality

I imagine AR would have covered her hair if she was in a Mosque.