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New research regarding transgender athletes

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WatchingBoat · 28/05/2024 13:07

Was interested to see this on the LEAPsports website.

https://leapsports.org/news/webinar-research

It’s publicising an online briefing based on recently published research about ‘the strength, power and aerobic capacity of transgender athletes’. It’s been published in the BMJ and was carried out by Dr Blair Hamilton. Its findings suggest that some transgender athletes perform worse than their non-transgender counterparts in certain cardiovascular tests, have lower bone density (which affects muscle strength) and reduced lung capacity.

I haven’t gone through the report in detail but believe the participants were similarly matched in terms of their athletic fitness - so it wasn’t a case of comparing a male couch potato with a female competitive athlete.

I know there will be people on this board with the knowledge and experience to dig down into the data/research. A link to the actual report is contained within the press release.

Apologies if this has already been discussed but I thought it was useful to know about the webinar briefing too.

Webinar: Trans women can’t jump! Briefing on new research from Dr Blair Hamilton | LEAP Sports Scotland

Join LEAP Sports on the 4th of June for a 1-hour webinar with Dr Blair Hamilton on her recently published research on the strength, power and aerobic capacity of transgender athletes.

https://leapsports.org/news/webinar-research

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Boadicea2 · 28/05/2024 14:50

Having a look at the full paper - not an expert, just an interested lay person. The gender nonsense makes it really hard to parse the meaning. I think my main criticism would be that training level is by self report so there's no way of measuring that that's the same. As the paper says:

BMI was also significantly different between the groups in this Study (F (3–66)=3.6, p=0.02). Transgender women athletes demonstrated higher BMI than cisgender women (t(66)=2.9, p=0.03, table 1), with no further differences observed.

I suspect this might be another paper where unfit transgender women are compared with fit women.

Also - in the no shit Sherlock category - Significant differences were found in height with CM being taller than transgender men Transgender women were also taller than transgender men cisgender women

https://bjsm.bmj.com/content/58/11/586#T1

quantumbutterfly · 28/05/2024 14:40

hallouminatus · 28/05/2024 14:23

Has Dr Hamilton's university profile page been hacked by a prankster?

Here's a sample paragraph:

Scholarly biography

Let's dive into Blair's incredible journey! Their background is a fusion of health, fitness, and sports development. Picture this: back in 2008, they nailed their national qualifications in health and fitness, and by 2010, they rocked a Higher National Diploma in sports coaching and development. But that's just the start!

Oh my goodness. Reads like an intro to a stage act, perhaps they're a stand-up comedian and it's all a big joke.

AmaryllisNightAndDay · 28/05/2024 14:36

Helleofabore · 28/05/2024 14:34

I believe so. That is the only 'recent' research that Hamilton has published so I daresay this is what it refers to.

It was basically pointed out by numerous sports scientists, sports ethics professionals and biologists that the recruitment made this study intrinsically flawed from the start.

How disappointing. If unsurprising.

Helleofabore · 28/05/2024 14:35

Justme56 · 28/05/2024 14:21

Is Blair Hamilton the trans person selected as goal keeper for the Women’s Universities Football team?

yes

Chersfrozenface · 28/05/2024 14:34

hallouminatus · 28/05/2024 14:23

Has Dr Hamilton's university profile page been hacked by a prankster?

Here's a sample paragraph:

Scholarly biography

Let's dive into Blair's incredible journey! Their background is a fusion of health, fitness, and sports development. Picture this: back in 2008, they nailed their national qualifications in health and fitness, and by 2010, they rocked a Higher National Diploma in sports coaching and development. But that's just the start!

This is the University of Brighton, mind.

Which, BTW, has a Centre for Transforming Sexuality and Gender
https://research.brighton.ac.uk/en/organisations/centre-for-transforming-sexuality-and-gender

Helleofabore · 28/05/2024 14:34

Apollo441 · 28/05/2024 13:43

Wasn't this the study where they compared elite female athletes with unfit men (I.e men that weren't even exercising regularly).

I believe so. That is the only 'recent' research that Hamilton has published so I daresay this is what it refers to.

It was basically pointed out by numerous sports scientists, sports ethics professionals and biologists that the recruitment made this study intrinsically flawed from the start.

hallouminatus · 28/05/2024 14:23

Has Dr Hamilton's university profile page been hacked by a prankster?

Here's a sample paragraph:

Scholarly biography

Let's dive into Blair's incredible journey! Their background is a fusion of health, fitness, and sports development. Picture this: back in 2008, they nailed their national qualifications in health and fitness, and by 2010, they rocked a Higher National Diploma in sports coaching and development. But that's just the start!

Blair Hamilton

https://research.brighton.ac.uk/en/persons/blair-hamilton

Justme56 · 28/05/2024 14:21

Is Blair Hamilton the trans person selected as goal keeper for the Women’s Universities Football team?

BezMills · 28/05/2024 14:12

transgender athletes perform worse than their non-transgender counterparts

The counterpart of a male transgender athlete is another male athlete, one assumes?

AmaryllisNightAndDay · 28/05/2024 13:54

Apollo441 · 28/05/2024 13:43

Wasn't this the study where they compared elite female athletes with unfit men (I.e men that weren't even exercising regularly).

This is new research, so presumably not. The study may have other weaknesses. Or it may be part of getting a clearer picture of the effects that hormones (etc) have on people. I hope it's presented nice and clearly so it's easy to figure out which sex they're comparing with, I quickly get confused.

Weirdly "cis" language often doesn't help to clarify. I think it's because whenever people who use "cis" say just "women" and "men" with neither "cis" nor "trans" as a prefix I have no idea what they mean.

Apollo441 · 28/05/2024 13:43

Wasn't this the study where they compared elite female athletes with unfit men (I.e men that weren't even exercising regularly).

nutmeg7 · 28/05/2024 13:24

Is the “non-trans counterpart” the same biological sex as the trans person?

Chersfrozenface · 28/05/2024 13:12

Does any of this research take into account the likelihood of athletes deliberately reducing their effort in order to provide results supporting their desire to compete in the incorrect sex category?

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