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Pronouns - pros and cons

36 replies

Springwatch123 · 27/05/2024 21:02

Can someone remind me the pros and cons of pronouns, having a blank moment.

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BonifaceBonanza · 27/05/2024 21:17

Cons - perpetuates the gender woo by normalising the whole topic

TheSquirrelfromTheWirral · 27/05/2024 21:15

Pros - you get your naval gazing feelings stroked and reminded how special you are

Cons - you get your naval gazing feeling stroked and really should be reminded how special you aren’t

BonifaceBonanza · 27/05/2024 21:14

That’s not quite true.
Gender woo motivated pronouns, whatever.
Advantage of pronouns in normal life, you know how to refer to someone who you can’t sex based on their name eg from a different cultural background, with a gender neutral name. Or whose appearance makes their sex slightly unclear in the first instance, risking hurting someone’s feelings.
Disadvantage, if used in place of sex it negates all efforts to ensure equality of access to both males/females, it also negates any effort to ensure equality of access for transgender people (since you can’t identify them without knowing sex).

CountingCrones · 27/05/2024 21:13

Draws attention to the fact you’re female, which has been demonstrated again and again to increase sexist behaviour.

Invisible Women has some stuff in that, I think.

FOHM · 27/05/2024 21:11

No pros at all.

fiskalulu · 27/05/2024 21:10

No pros

Cons - offensive and excluding to many, baffling to most as your sex will often be clearly visible. Assumes you have a gender and 'fit' stereotypical fluffy girl / macho man clothes / make up etc. pretentious but also shows you up as a bit of an idiot.

spartanrunnergirl · 27/05/2024 21:09

See here Anti-pronouns letter to companies www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4389215-anti-pronouns-letter-to-companies

DoreenonTill8 · 27/05/2024 21:09

What for?

IdealHomeExhibition · 27/05/2024 21:08

Just cons. Load of attention seeking crap.

JellySaurus · 27/05/2024 21:06

There are no pros.