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Blackcats7 · 27/05/2024 12:25

I can't believe my eyes. Season 9 apparently. Bloody breast tissue in the bag. Sickening.

Horrific Drag Race has anybody seen this?? **MNHQ CONTENT WARNING FOR GRAPHIC IMAGE***
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Abeona · 28/05/2024 10:40

I'm presuming this is the BBC — sorry, don't watch anything like this and I'm not interested in googling.

Complain to the BBC here:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/contact/complaints/make-a-complaint/#/Complaint

Tim Davie is the director general: write to him via the BBC or you could try [email protected]

We have to complain and keep on complaining. And we need to ask Today, now Emma Barnett is on it, to discuss it.

Have Cancer Research and other breast cancer charities spoken out or are the silenced? They need to be speaking up about the distress that breast cancer sufferers feel when confronted by these images.

I have a Jewish friend who is living with cancer which started as breast cancer some years ago. She saw this image on Twitter and is now, I think, approaching the edge of a breakdown. The combination of a woman who has mutilated herself in order to participate with men in misogyny, plus the reports of women murdered by Hamas terrorists and having their breasts cut off, plus fear that whenever she next has to go into hospital she may be confronted by a virtue-signalling, anti-Semitic person or a male person when she has asked for female care, is too much for her. On top of that is all the distress of a woman who has had years on the cancer roller-coaster, clear at one test, back in treatment and with a worsening prognosis year after year. And the knowledge that young autistic girls going through a difficult puberty will think that lopping your breasts off is glamorous and fierce. What an absolute shitstorm.

I'm not buying a new TV licence when it comes due for renewal. We just won't watch the BBC. That won't be difficult. I hope thousands of others refuse too.

WitchyWitcherson · 28/05/2024 10:37

Justme56 · 27/05/2024 13:03

More on Instagram. See the number of likes.

"Bio hazard tit bag"

Awful, just awful 😞

Completely trivialising major surgery, which many women go through without choice. My childhood best friend lost her mother to breast cancer (when my friend was just 14 years old). Breast cancer and its consequences are not a trivial matter.

And as for the PinkNews X post of their article a PP posted above. It reminds me of the worst of 4Chan - Put something out there that's grossly offensive and gory, then revel in people's outrage.

As for GottMik, I'm wondering whether in 5 years' time her drag race outfit will include showing off a pair of incontinence pants given the known effect of T on the female body. Or perhaps it's just the "elective" bits of transing she's going to highlight.

NotBadConsidering · 28/05/2024 10:35

HoneyButterPopcorn · 28/05/2024 10:24

Elective double mastectomy. If you are old enough to sign the papers you are old enough to call it what it is without the twee euphemisms. She has chosen to amputate healthy breast still issue but looking at her arms she has not chosen to have a phalus fashioned out of arm flesh and tissue.

Because if she had she wouldn’t be able to walk down a catwalk for a long time. Or pee without a catheter. Or talk properly for a week or two. Or move properly. Or lift anything. Or stay out of hospital with the high complication rate.

HoneyButterPopcorn · 28/05/2024 10:24

TrulyFubar · 27/05/2024 12:39

GottMik is a Trans Man. Had you watched the episode and listened to his explanation, the look was regarding his own top surgery.

Elective double mastectomy. If you are old enough to sign the papers you are old enough to call it what it is without the twee euphemisms. She has chosen to amputate healthy breast still issue but looking at her arms she has not chosen to have a phalus fashioned out of arm flesh and tissue.

AlisonDonut · 28/05/2024 10:16

It needs a content warning on here, but is fine for national mainsream TV?

Make it make sense.

It's like when those parents read out porn in school board meetings and the school board go mad and yet, these are books in the school library.

MarieDeGournay · 28/05/2024 10:04

When I upload photos of anything, there's a little message asking Sensitive Content? Having had my stomach turned inside out and family loss evoked every time that despicable image appears - and thank you OP for alerting us to the awfulness of it - I wonder was it not possible to have the image hidden until clicked on, having been warned about the content?
Trivial 'trigger warnings' have had a bad press, but in some cases like this, they would be appreciated.

Datun · 28/05/2024 10:03

And 'Gottmik' is a play on Got Milk, the advertising strap line for milk?

She's using a marketing tool for the purchase and consumption of milk to promote unnecessary mastectomies?

These people must've known how controversial and upsetting this would be.
They have sat around in meetings discussing whether or not they could get away with it.

But self harm, misogyny, and upsetting women with breast cancer were fanatically embraced in order to get higher ratings.

And yes, I hope people who thought drag race was just a bit of harmless fun now see it for the patriarchal, misogynistic brainwashing it is.

And I completely agree, don't fucking blame the world for voting for men like Trump when this is deemed acceptable.

FrancescaContini · 28/05/2024 09:51

WarriorN · 28/05/2024 09:29

the look

'The look' is scars and blood.

'The look' is hands with knives in them, cutting flesh.

'The look' is turning blood into jewels.

'The look' is a cut and bleeding woman.

'The look,' this catwalk 'look' is physical mutilation of a healthy body for no reason other than aesthetic commercial reasons.

Peak misogyny and peak patriarchy.

I was thinking about this phrase “the look” and how appalling its use was by @TrulyFubar . You’ve articulated so well my jumbled thoughts. Thank you @WarriorN

WarriorN · 28/05/2024 09:34

I hope that wasn't too upsetting for those who've had surgery. I had a lumpectomy and symmetrical reconstruction. I was extremely reactive to all this shit for a good few months. Because breasts are so tied to image, motherhood, but used in fashion and consumerism and there are so many violent images on the internet

This reminds me of the fashion industry's trend for posing skeletal models in dying poses. Because thin and prone women are more easily over powered and therefore property of men.

It's a continuation of that tradition. Women are property to be controlled and moulded.

WarriorN · 28/05/2024 09:29

the look

'The look' is scars and blood.

'The look' is hands with knives in them, cutting flesh.

'The look' is turning blood into jewels.

'The look' is a cut and bleeding woman.

'The look,' this catwalk 'look' is physical mutilation of a healthy body for no reason other than aesthetic commercial reasons.

Peak misogyny and peak patriarchy.

ScrollingLeaves · 28/05/2024 00:50

TrulyFubar · 27/05/2024 12:39

GottMik is a Trans Man. Had you watched the episode and listened to his explanation, the look was regarding his own top surgery.

the look was regarding his own top surgery.

Mastectomy
Breast removal

theDudesmummy · 28/05/2024 00:24

A "man pretending to be a woman who chopped her breasts off"? So a woman then? I literally do not understand what this means

irishmurdoch · 28/05/2024 00:18

StellaGreen · 27/05/2024 12:30

But that's a bloke, why has he pretended to chop his breast tissue off?

I'm guessing that if it's a man pretending to be a woman (who's chopped her breasts off in order to look like a man)... that makes it drag?

But it's also saying trans men are women, because drag queens imitate woman... which seems a bit terfy to me Grin

theDudesmummy · 27/05/2024 23:51

I literally don't understand what is going on. That AI image of the person with extra arms, what is that about?

MsLuxLisbon · 27/05/2024 22:42

This is 'baby Gottmik'. A little odd, to say the least. I'm all for adults doing what they please, but this did disturb me.

Horrific Drag Race has anybody seen this?? **MNHQ CONTENT WARNING FOR GRAPHIC IMAGE***
songaboutjam · 27/05/2024 22:05

AlisonDonut · 27/05/2024 22:04

Women horrified about this are now being banned from twitter for being horrified about this.

Elon's done a 180 then?

AlisonDonut · 27/05/2024 22:04

Women horrified about this are now being banned from twitter for being horrified about this.

domineastronomy · 27/05/2024 21:47

There are some seriously fucked up people around. I cannot imagine how their sick lives are going to play out.

ThaMiSporsail · 27/05/2024 19:06

Oh @Tallisker I'm so sorry 💐

Wishing you a speedy recovery.

soupfiend · 27/05/2024 19:05

DialSquare · 27/05/2024 12:57

I think James Dreyfus summed it up well.

Well said James

Last time I had a post removed for saying the same about anorexia, why not glorify WLS and eating toilet roll.

IamAporcupine · 27/05/2024 19:04

SquirrelSoShiny · 27/05/2024 18:29

I see stuff like this and completely get why the far right is rising all over Europe. I will never forgive leftist fools for the fascist era coming as a backlash to shit like this. God help us all, especially gay folk, autistic folk and anyone not straight and conservative.

Increasingly I wonder if the far right were the ones bankrolling gender ideology, knowing that the left would blindly swallow it and bring about its own destruction. Women lose either way so that will make misogynists happy regardless of their political affiliation.

I never thought all of what's coming would happen in my lifetime 😢

I've wondered this too...

MouseMinge · 27/05/2024 19:04

To @Tallisker and everyone and anyone else on this thread how has had to have a masectomy or is waiting for one/knows someone going/gone through it, I send love. I hope you all know that what you went through is about strength, that your beauty remains, that you are no less than you were before in fact you are probably more because the strength it takes to go through such major surgery isn't something everyone has. I'll come across as a right twat her but your courage inspires me to be stronger in the things I am going through. Please never forget that you are and will always be one of the finest examples of what and how a strong woman is.
This photo, the fact that this was on television - thankfully not the BBC because frankly that would be unforgiveable and beyond the pale - is something I barely have words for, so I'm not going to try to find too many. Not having them sort of says it all anyway.

I've always been worried about so called "top surgery" which as we all know is just a supposedly nice way of saying a double masectomy. It sort of takes me back to a programme I saw decades ago on either the BBC or C4 about people who had an amputation/stump kink. Wanting to have a limb or part of a limb amputated for sexual pleasure reasons. Obviously, it was shocking and even more obviously no sane or decent surgeon would go near such surgery. Fast forward however many decades and we're happily cutting off perfectly healthy breasts for, let's face it the same reason, as those people in that decades old documentary wanted rid of a limb/bit of a limb. It's barbaric and we will look back at this at some point in the hopefully not too distant future and wonder what insanity had overtaken us.

I look back at some of the things we used to do people for medical reasons in the past. Leeches,etc and none of it seems as barbaric as what we're doing to young women today.

IamAporcupine · 27/05/2024 19:03

This is disgusting.
💐to Tallisker and everyone else affected by this

I've seen GotMilk before - as a PP said, the fact that she is a woman who prefers to be seen as a man impersonating women tells me all I need to know about her mental health.

AGlinnerOfHope · 27/05/2024 18:47

IwantToRetire · 27/05/2024 18:01

First of all my thoughts are with those who have posted on this thread about their surgery and those wondering what they may have to face.

I hope you can stay strong and have support. Flowers

The act described in the OP is just such a horrific example of how the whole trans drag culture seems to think because they are so special they can subject other people, particularly women to total disrespect, as everyone should be celebrating them.

Here is another example, not as deeply disturbing as the one this thread is about, but was shown on mainstream tv, and applauded by judges, though some viewers weren't so accepting. https://uk.news.yahoo.com/britains-got-talent-chantaaaal-titanic-164821328.html

When did the media get to decide how the compass on what is acceptable to broadcast should shift this way.

I was less offended by this. I saw it as a skit based on the film, not the actual events.

I found the film pretty tasteless, and don’t see this sketch as any worse. I prefer his unabashedly male body in a ridiculous outfit to the usual female parody.

It reminded me more of mime or Greek tragedy, than drag.

Jaxhog · 27/05/2024 18:36

BlueskysandWind · 27/05/2024 12:56

What's next, waving bloody testicles and a penis in a plastic bag?

This was my thought too! But that, of course, wouldn't be acceptable in case it offended men.