Wes Streeting nearly apologises.

Absolutely! This is so clear, and not difficult for the Labour Party to understand.

I thought it might be about the Pet Shop, or taking cash from private healthcare firms and pretending he'll save the NHS.

I raised the cass report on my doorstop to a canvasser today and got fobbed off with labours response is positive (?) and the candidate would have more to say later in the week when they came

Piece of piss. Sorry I can't edit on my phone.

That's not good enough Wes. I don't really care what you've said and done in the past but what I want from you and your party in the coming weeks is a clear explanation of a) what you mean by single sex spaces and b) exactly how you plan to protect those spaces while simultaneously making it a piece of piece to obtain a GRC. Otherwise I'll be checking out the independent candidates.

You've had plenty of time to get this right, you have the Labour Women's Declaration if you need any help and my patience is all but out.

Nor do I, @Citrusandginger, but I'm not voting Labour as they simply haven't earned my vote. We have (what looks like) a decent (ex-Labour) indie here, so subject to him telling me he supports women's rights (and his TwiX doesn't suggest he doesn't), he's getting my vote.

Oh I'm not voting for them with any enthusiasm. But I don't wanted another 5 years of the Tory wrecking ball. I'm choosing to vote labour & understand that this means I will have to keep fighting for women.

I'm very much up for that conversation with any canvassers that come knocking, just as I will be equally frank with Tory & reform candidates about why they aren't getting my vote.

I think I may have to spoil my ballot "Respect my sex, if you want my X"

Voting for them isn't sending that message, @Citrusandginger. They'll see it as acceptance.

So much this. I am going to vote labour because I want better public services, but I'm not forgiving them for calling women bigots or for their treatment of Rosie Duffield. Nor am I forgetting that the fight to centre women in women's rights needs to accelerate.

I'm determined not to let them get away with it.

I'm going on the manifesto. And that's not even legally binding. As such, Labour can't be trusted.

I may be naive but I'm cautiously optimistic. I'm hoping that Labour are realising that if they make it easier for men to enter women's spaces then their entire term in government will be dogged by the sort of headlines that we've been seeing in Scotland. There will be a massive train of legal cases coming down the track such as the nurses who have to share a changing room plus detransitioners suing the NHS. At the moment they can put it all on the Tories. I think once a politician actually pays attention to the issues they realise that attacking women's rights will be a disaster. As I say I'm probably hopelessly naive. Annalise Dodds appears to have looked at the situation and decided self-id is a great idea.

As long as you’re not holding your breath ….

I wish I weren't so cynical about this. I wish I could trust that Streeting represents a change of understanding and policy in the Labour Party. And that his 'apology' is not because the Labour strategists have realised that what a considerable proportion of Labour voters want to hear.

Can we trust hi, do you think? He is apparently quite powerful within the Parliamentary Labour Party.

Ugh why am I not excited by the prospect of getting the Tories out?

Channel 4 News last week had Caroline Nokes and Ben Bradshaw claiming that it never comes up on the doorstep.

https://x.com/Channel4News/status/1791512859240796317

Obviously these are two of the most TRA MPs in parliament but C4 News was not aiming for balance. Krishnan always acts like any mention of the issues can only be "culture wars".

When the Labour canvassers came to my door we did indeed talk about emptying the bins (it was my local councillor who'd been sorting a regular non-emptying issue for me)!

I then launched into women's sex-based rights. And she ran away!

Moral of the story: always discuss bins first, else they'll bugger off!

It's that magical thinking again as practised by the under 5s. This is the world as Labour would like it to be where women STFU about safeguarding children, women's rights to safety & privacy, Cass & the inconvenient data that shows how much harm is being done to children & young people.

In their minds we're all on our doorsteps talking about emptying the bins and modernising the GRA 😑

So why is starmer so instant on modernising the GRA? Or is he claiming thats a huge talking point on the doorstep, but men in womens prisons and in womens sport isn't.

If he just wants to concentrate on what people say to him while canvassing, he would only need to have policies on gas bills and potholes.

@NoWordForFluffy thankyou that's really helpful.

Streeting is a weaselly little opportunist (apologies to any weasels reading) who’d say anything to further his political career. He’s a useful weathervane; but he’ll swing right round if the wind changes - developing mysterious amnesia in the process.

Hopefully you can view TwiX: https://x.com/steven_swinford/status/1642820660333359104?s=46

“I hope there will be some goodwill coming in from both directions because I genuinely think there is a way through this really toxic conversation where trans people can live with dignity, respect and inclusion, and women can have their sex-based rights protected.''

This is still 'both sides' and 'be kind'. But it isn't a problem that can be fixed by us being kind and understanding; its a problem that can only be fixed by Govt making clear, absolute rules.

Who said that this never comes up on the doorstep please?

I'll be ensuring as I have done in the past that this comes up on my doorstep but would like to understand where the comment originated.

As he's shadow health secretary I'm expecting a detailed response from him about Cass and how it affects the NHS, the revelations about damage to young women's bodies from cross sex hormones and a range of other issues.

I'll wait...