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Cathy Newman presses Labour on self ID

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WarriorN · 24/05/2024 18:12

On times radio. You can hear the interview and total lack of clarity here:

https://x.com/cathynewman/status/1794051906651791623?s=46&t=A2fpFNgDRyXF2d6ye97wEA

She also tags JKR in Smile

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ArabellaScott · 24/05/2024 19:58

Either you let men into women's spaces or you don't. It's one or the other.

HipTightOnions · 24/05/2024 19:56

"Our policy is to square the circle."

ILikeDungs · 24/05/2024 19:46

I listened to some of that.

"We must respect trans identified people" and "We must respect women's need for single sex spaces".

How exactly do you give men who say they are women what they want, AND at the same time give women what they need? How? Smarmy "respect" oozing from every pore but no answer to the dilemma of our time.

MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 24/05/2024 19:46

mb2512cat · 24/05/2024 19:01

I think you have to assume the worst. They’ll amend the EQA and GRA in such a way to make it compatible with Self ID and the Scottish GRR; then the Scots will re-pass the GRR (or they won’t have to as U.K.-wide law will be close to what they ultimately wish.)

This, with some ineffectual nods to women's prisons and sports, to keep the T**fy amongst us quiet.

mb2512cat · 24/05/2024 19:01

I think you have to assume the worst. They’ll amend the EQA and GRA in such a way to make it compatible with Self ID and the Scottish GRR; then the Scots will re-pass the GRR (or they won’t have to as U.K.-wide law will be close to what they ultimately wish.)

ArabellaScott · 24/05/2024 18:57

Trying to please everyone will just piss everyone off.

UtopiaPlanitia · 24/05/2024 18:28

Load of waffle from Labour as per. The can’t give a clear answer because there is no clear way to allow men to become legally women and then still protect women’s rights, spaces and freedoms. It’s the Keir Starmer equivalent of Boris Johnson’s Cake-ist policy on the EU Single Market 🤷‍♀️

WarriorN · 24/05/2024 18:25

Quite.

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FlakyPoet · 24/05/2024 18:20

Can someone explain to me how single ‘biological’ sex spaces can be provided if all records of sex identity - passport, driving licence, birth certificate, etc, can be legally falsified?

How can you prove it? Do they want the ‘genital checks’ at the door?

WarriorN · 24/05/2024 18:12

Love her post!

Cathy Newman presses Labour on self ID
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