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"How inclusive language can help to reduce birth trauma"

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CrossPurposes · 23/05/2024 22:45

https://theconversation.com/how-inclusive-language-can-help-to-reduce-birth-trauma-226197

Anyone convinced by the arguments made here?

Ironically, it was linked to underneath an article talking about the shift in usage of words that had once had a particular meaning:

https://theconversation.com/woke-and-gaslight-dont-mean-what-you-think-they-do-heres-why-thats-a-problem-230488

How inclusive language can help to reduce birth trauma

28% of trans and non-binary people felt they were not treated with dignity and respect during labour – but coverage of the UK birth trauma report has largely ignored LGBTQ+ families

https://theconversation.com/how-inclusive-language-can-help-to-reduce-birth-trauma-226197

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BeBraveLittlePenguin · 24/05/2024 07:52

If you're traumatised by not having other people be sufficiently deferential to a term you've made up like non binary, it really doesn't bode well for your ability to parent.

FrancescaContini · 24/05/2024 07:13

I got to the fourth paragraph and gave up. In the context of what women told the Birth Trauma Inquiry, the focus in the article on being “misgendered” (only women can give birth, as the whole world knows) during the birth process is risible.

As for the point on “inclusive language” in the birth process, we women are sick to the back teeth of the word “woman” being erased from medical and healthcare literature and settings. Absolutely sick of it.

LilyBartsHatShop · 24/05/2024 07:00

I tried to read it but I just can't concentrate on this stuff.
My eyes were following the words but my mind was filled with the stories from the recent thread here about maternity care standards in the NHS.

Justme56 · 24/05/2024 01:37

It’s funny when it comes to inclusive language it only goes one way. There seems to be little written about how to be inclusive of those with specifically male medical conditions.

MarieDeGournay · 23/05/2024 23:04

From the second article:
'When precise terms change their meaning, we lose a tool for understanding and communicating about an idea or experience because the words that previously helped us to do this are no longer suitable. In my research, I call this process “hermeneutical disarmament”.'
Great point. Next time someone changes the meaning of the precise term 'woman', I'll accuse them of hermeneutical disarmamentGrin

ditalini · 23/05/2024 23:04

I agree that in certain situations using the 2nd person (ironically because when saying "if you are pregnant" the word pregnant stands in for "a pregnant woman" because we're not idiots) works well, and additive language can be an acceptable option.

However, how many women are we talking about here, and actually is is proportionate to erase sex based language when communicating widely?

Where is the evidence that this use of language in broad communication helps that 28% of female LGBTQ+ patients who don't see their families and identity reflected and respected in their individual treatment?

Because my gut feeling is that it doesn't help, and neither does using such a diverse grouping as LGBTQ+ and then just reporting on erasing sex based language which is only one if many possible elements of respectful and person centred care.

ScathingAngelAgrona · 23/05/2024 23:01

Many women, you know, the ones who are correctly sexed by medical practitioners, feel they are not treated with dignity or respect most of their lives, including pregnancy and birth.

The ‘arguments’ are weak, the logic even weaker. Only the female sex give birth, regardless of anyone’s worship at the ‘gender’ altar.