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Justme56 · 2024-05-23T14:01:51+00:00

[[https://russellgroup.ac.uk/media/6216/russell-group-ofs-approach-to-free-speech-summary.pdf https://russellgroup.ac.uk/media/6216/russell-group-ofs-approach-to-free-speech-summary.pdf]] See the sixth bullet point.

Marmaladelover · 23/05/2024 15:59

GerbilStyle · 23/05/2024 15:53

Can't help with your need for legal team but as a WI member I'd be interested in finding out more about the unofficial WI

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UWI is completely captured by TW . Even NFWI who now lets anyone in who Lives as a Woman ( plus anyone who only does it Monday to Wednesday ) but even they recognise the right of GC women to remain in the WI . The UWI run by ignorant volunteers will not allow any GC views .

GerbilStyle · 23/05/2024 15:53

Marmaladelover · 23/05/2024 15:49

Linked to this thread - hope I am not hijacking

The Unofficial WI prevented me posting very reasonable GC views on their Facebook page , my comment to a post was that the WI need to have mechanisms in place and increase the pooling of fares for training and paying for delegates at national conference so that everybody now has a single room accommodation . (Usual and present practice is based on 2 women sharing a room ) This is because of their policy to admit TW .

I know the act of removing my comments to a post whilst leaving that post up is likely to be unlawful and am looking for a solicitor to help me with a cease and desist letter, since this keeps happening on that site.

Suggestions gratefully received.

Can't help with your need for legal team but as a WI member I'd be interested in finding out more about the unofficial WI

OchonAgusOchonOh · 23/05/2024 15:52

I actually think that is very cleverly worded and it is potentially written by a TERF. Give us examples of hate speech so we know what to look out for. However, they will struggle to find examples as they will presumably need to justify the examples.

Of course the alternative is that it was written by a TRA who believes anyone who deviates from the doctrine is a gender critical heretic.

Marmaladelover · 23/05/2024 15:49

Linked to this thread - hope I am not hijacking

The Unofficial WI prevented me posting very reasonable GC views on their Facebook page , my comment to a post was that the WI need to have mechanisms in place and increase the pooling of fares for training and paying for delegates at national conference so that everybody now has a single room accommodation . (Usual and present practice is based on 2 women sharing a room ) This is because of their policy to admit TW .

I know the act of removing my comments to a post whilst leaving that post up is likely to be unlawful and am looking for a solicitor to help me with a cease and desist letter, since this keeps happening on that site.

Suggestions gratefully received.

Codlingmoths · 23/05/2024 15:33

Oh dear.

CheeseSandwichRiskAssessment · 23/05/2024 15:28

That's absolutely shocking.

lady69 · 23/05/2024 15:27

The Free Speech Union may be interested in this too…

TheBanffie · 23/05/2024 15:25

I've just emailed in a formal complaint. CEO is at [email protected]

Twitter is @RussellGroup - I'm not on Twitter, anyone who is please highlight this, encouraging direct discrimination is illegal.

EdithStourton · 23/05/2024 15:17

Multi x-post!

EdithStourton · 23/05/2024 15:16

From the link:
'Includes examples of unlawful speech which universities would be expected to take steps to restrict, including [...] gender critical speech, in the guidance.'
Gender critical speech is not illegal. Believing that there are men and women, XY and XX, is WORIADS, per the Forstatter ruling.

Snowypeaks · 23/05/2024 15:16

That part of the policy is in itself unlawful. And apparently they've never heard of Maya Forstater, or Jo Phoenix.

lady69 · 23/05/2024 15:08

They may find they will need to ring fence some funds to pay for court cases they lose given gender critical beliefs have protection under the Equalities Act following the Forestater judgement.

TheBanffie · 23/05/2024 15:05

Wow is that legal? Surely not - open discrimination against gender critical views is absolutely appalling and illegal. Is this a draft or final publication?