Can anyone summarise each of the main parties views on sex?

Similar with mine. She seems to be a music tutor of some kind and has re-tweeted a couple of bonkers things. That's it. Overall I'm not getting the impression the SDP is a very serious entity.

Pleased to see that I too have an SDP candidate (I've voted for her before as a politically homeless leftie GC) but when I followed @AllProperTeaIsTheft's example I can find no trace of her anywhere doing anything other than standing in this ward. Somehow that isn't reassuring 😑

No I don't. I "believe"/know woman = adult human female.

Some men are legally recognised as women because they have a GRC. That's a statement of fact, not a belief. It's not my fault the law has been defined to fly in the face of biology.

Please don't make stuff up about me.

No, I haven’t, but I’m not surprised there is more skepticism now from people.

You believe that men can be women, which is the biggest load of ascientific bollocks out there. People in glass houses, and all that…

Had enough of experts have we? That worked well in Brexit.

Anyway:
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-forecasters-see-extraordinary-2024-hurricane-season-2024-05-23/

https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/sea-level/?intent=121

Realistically there is very little separating the main parties here. If you are unhappy with the current situation it makes no sense to vote the conservatives back though. At least a fresh new party can re-examine what the conservatives have put in place.

This Bundling of Beliefs is one of the things that utterly pisses me off about the modern social-media-driven world.

If I find somebody who is willing to state publicly that female humans deserve single-sex spaces, it feels gloomily inevitable that they'll also be (e.g.) climate change denialists, anti-vaxxers, haters of the poor/disadvantaged, etc. If I seek somebody who cares about the environment, is pro-European and generally open to migration, socially liberal, economically left-wing, etc, they'll also lecture me that NoBOdY CaN TeLL wHAt SeX A PeRsOn iS/ SoMeThiNG aBouT QuEeR LadY PeNiS.

It's become very clear to me (although entirely unsurprising) that most people just outsource what passes for "thinking" to whichever tribe they aspire to.

Green Party - trans women are women - this is our most important belief. It’s not as if there is anything else going on that we are even vaguely interested in.

Lib Dems - trans women are women - has anyone noticed us yet?

Labour - saying trans women are women will win us votes? Sure - whatever. Oh - it seems to be losing us votes. Oh. Oh dear. Now what do we say?

Tory - of course trans women are not women. We don’t want to fuck them. And anyway - women are highly inferior beings that we are happy to allow to starve to death.

The impression I have is they’re more conservative with a small c, and would like to return to the values that were more normal before Thatcher and Blair radically changed the landscape. I don’t like all their policies, but I don’t think there is any perfect party.

Regarding the climate change denial, if that’s what it was, I’m on Twitter and what I am seeing at the moment is pushback against newspapers reporting on climate change to the point where they’re effectively fear mongering. There were examples given from years ago, making terrible predictions about the rise in sea level which would come to pass by certain dates, which are now in the past, for example.

Given we live in a time when the entire medical edifice, including most schools has moved to teaching a model where extreme, harmful body modification is seen as the primary treatment method for a mental health disorder, and governments and powerful media sources around the world have fallen for the lie that men can be women if they say they are, I’m unsurprised if people are starting to question other, apparently settled areas of science where we are being asked to make changes for some invisible “greater good”.

I believe Tory's think women belong to them and labour believe women belong to everyone 🤷‍♀️

There are indeed, but I’m not being pushed back into a second class citizen. Sort the gender crap and then we can sort the rest - because the gender crap is pretty crucial to more than half the population and, if we’re not careful, we’ll lose our hard-won rights.

There's more issues than gender identity!

Of course there are, but anyone spineless or disingenuous enough to say to the public that only most women don't have penises, or that it's not right to say only women have a cervix, is not someone I'd trust to run the country.

Workers party is on the left.

I had a look at their page too, after someone mentioned them as a possibility for gc voters. I was pleased to seea candidate is standing in my constituency. Then I looked her up. Her most recent post was re-tweeting a climate change denial article...

Also I'm frankly put off by the fact they describe themselves as 'economically left-leaning' but give the impression of being a bit flag-wavy and right-wing traditionalist in other ways .

Of course there are more issues but if virtual self id comes in women lose the ability to fight for equality so no matter what else happens women will suffer.

There's more issues than gender identity!

They might not give much of a shit, but at least they know what a woman is; haven’t accused us of hoarding our rights; haven’t got a leader that thinks women can have a penis and bullies women who know what a woman is. They’ve also got the Cass report and plans to tighten guidelines to get gender identity out of schools.

Labour on the other hand are falling over themselves to give our rights away, and Starmer is a complete wet lettuce.

My MP is one of those 🤦🏻‍♀️

Worth remembering that the Communist Party as per the Morning Star (I cant keep up with all of their schisms) supports women's sex based rights.

Here’s a link to the SDP policy page.

Not sure they qualify as a main party, but worth noting.

I also don’t know where they will be fielding candidates yet. I wish I could stand, but I would have to resign from my job, which isn’t really an option right now.

https://sdp.org.uk/policies/transgender-and-biological-sex-based-rights/

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1901424/starmer-gender-reforms

Yes it's been widely reported that Labour want to make it easier for anyone to obtain GRCs with a single trip to the GP and then they can change their sex on their birth certificates. It is self ID in all but name.

If what is being reported is true, that Labour will change the GRC process so only 1 GP needs to sign off, it's not difficult to imagine the Gender GP type outfits that will spring up to serve this purpose. So yes, it would be self ID in all but name.

Sure, we need to see the details, but the truth is I just don't trust Labour on this

Starmer couldn't even invite Rosie to the GE campaign launch in Kent today, which tells me a lot about how little Labour will listen to women.

I'll be voting Labour whatever due to the fact that they have the most female MPs, have a lot of policies focussed on improving life for women and seem like they are half way competent and ready to lead. But I'll be interested what the other parties say. To date, the ones that are unequivocally "woman = adult human female" either have no other policies or policies that will actively harm women so their position on "womens sex based rights" doesn't outweigh their shitness in other areas. I'm not a single issue voter though.

No they aren't. They've explicitly said they will not do that. Don't make stuff up on a thread intended to be factual and useful to people deciding how to vote.

I wonder if Labour had been in power would they have stepped in to block the ridiculous Scottish gender bill? At least there is one thing to thank Rishi for!