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BBC FINALLY reports on a feminist win

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girlpancake · 20/05/2024 14:36

Roz Adams' case against the Edinburgh Rape Crisis centre has been reported by the BBC when many other similar employment tribunal cases were ignored. This one's been downgraded to the Scotland page, but mumsnet users might want to click on it to send it up the rankings and prove to the BBC that this is of interest to their readers. That means there's no excuse for not covering these. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1ee39wn30xo

Roz Adams

Rape centre worker wins tribunal over gender-critical beliefs

A tribunal found Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre had unfairly constructively dismissed Roz Adams.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1ee39wn30xo

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NoBinturongsHereMate · 26/05/2024 22:26

afluffle · 22/05/2024 10:44

Is a trans-female a girl or boy? Actually, I don't care, I'll stick to my language, simples.

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In this particular case, they are trying to say 'non-binary woman' in a way that looks less ridiculous.

flyingbuttress43 · 22/05/2024 16:55

Too little too late for the BBC and the Guardian. If they can lie/obfuscate about the trans issue they can lie/obfuscate about anything. They gave lost my trust for ever.

lcakethereforeIam · 22/05/2024 10:47

The Guardian begging pop ups have got increasingly QAnon. I rarely bother with them but I still have recipes bookmarked and Houseplant of the week I keep an eye on (I keep hoping one day it'll be Starmer).

afluffle · 22/05/2024 10:44

FlakyPoet · 21/05/2024 17:19

I think this expression arose at the time of high TWAW - when many women/feminists conceded the words ‘woman’ and ‘girl’ to men and boys, but differentiated the sexes with the words ‘female’ and ‘male’ in order to be able to still talk about women’s needs and rights. This concession immediately led to the term ‘trans female’. Give an inch and they take a mile.

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Is a trans-female a girl or boy? Actually, I don't care, I'll stick to my language, simples.

afluffle · 22/05/2024 10:40

Haha, but it'll still be a long time before I give them any of my money again.

Igmum · 21/05/2024 17:40

The BBC and the Guardian? Truly these times are After Cass

FlakyPoet · 21/05/2024 17:19

TempestTost · 21/05/2024 17:12

trans-female?

I think this expression arose at the time of high TWAW - when many women/feminists conceded the words ‘woman’ and ‘girl’ to men and boys, but differentiated the sexes with the words ‘female’ and ‘male’ in order to be able to still talk about women’s needs and rights. This concession immediately led to the term ‘trans female’. Give an inch and they take a mile.

TempestTost · 21/05/2024 17:12

trans-female?

redalex261 · 20/05/2024 23:00

I’m glad both BBC and Guardian have covered the actual news.

BBC article fairly complete and impartial.

Guardian article stated Roz Adams was “unfairly dismissed” not constructively dismissed and said it was due to her “questioning rules about a trans-female counsellor working with a female survivor” 🤦‍♀️Do they have editors?

Neither of the articles highlighted the Tribunal’s remarks about the CEO and other decision maker (cannot be arsed spell-checking their names) failing to give evidence in spite if being the architects of the wrongdoing.

Still, at least it’s been covered in MSM.

mum2jakie · 20/05/2024 19:32

Have clicked for stats - and genuine interest. Excellent outcome, thanks

teawamutu · 20/05/2024 19:24

Blimey, the Guardian piece is ok as well.

Is Perfectly Normal Sized OJ all right? Thoughts and prayers.

FlakyPoet · 20/05/2024 19:18

RhannionKPSS · 20/05/2024 14:58

He is a vile, misogynistic, cruel, lying piece of shit, and should be sacked from ERRC along with all the others who enabled & endorsed him, including Maggie Chapman and Sandy Brindley.

👆👆👆 this.

Wewereonnabreak · 20/05/2024 16:16

Important to say it’s a women’s rights issue. Not trans. The people we are concerned about (well, mostly), are predatory men. And the actions of Labour will enable them further. There are obv many other issues - sports etc, but to keep it on track.

Otherwise there still remains a risk that some will say ‘trans issue’? Not a problem. Live and live. I’m kind! Because they’ve not thought about potential implications.

An example that might help is asking if they’d be ok with young children sharing changing rooms with predatory men now ‘legitimately’ known as women? Extreme? It wouldn’t be.

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girlpancake · 20/05/2024 16:10

Blackcats7 · 20/05/2024 15:50

Have posted the bbc link on my fb. So many people I know live in their own bubble and are barely aware of the trans issue.

That's a really good idea, thanks Blackcats7

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SinnerBoy · 20/05/2024 16:05

The BBC and the Guardian? Is it a harbinger of the Apocalypse, do you think?

Helleofabore · 20/05/2024 15:51

More sunlight!!

Blackcats7 · 20/05/2024 15:50

Have posted the bbc link on my fb. So many people I know live in their own bubble and are barely aware of the trans issue.

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girlpancake · 20/05/2024 15:48

It is a weird phrase to be fair. Not sure what I would pick. Reality-based feminist? Anti-stereotype?

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girlpancake · 20/05/2024 15:47

Replying to Codling Moths (didn't hit quote): That's a depressing thought. But alternatively, someone at the BBC has just stood up and shouted "Transwomen are men!" and no-one has the nerve to fire her.

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Codlingmoths · 20/05/2024 15:26

Someone at the bbc has taken a big thick marker and ticked the box for IMPARTIALITY: EVIDENCE on gender criticism, so hard it’s scored the paper, and filed it for 2024. Done. Now they can ignore it for the rest of the year.

arethereanyleftatall · 20/05/2024 15:23

It is BEYOND CRUEL to have the head of a rape centre as a fucking man. Those poor poor women. Well done to Roz.

Krazoom · 20/05/2024 15:22

Great that they're reporting on it but wondering if some readers will even understand what gender critical means given the lack of reporting up to now.

TurboAndJet · 20/05/2024 15:18

Just heard this being reported on the news on BBC radio 6 music.

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girlpancake · 20/05/2024 15:15

Boiledbeetle · 20/05/2024 15:14

I wonder how scrunched up some of the dissenting staffs faces are at the BBC right now!

Face like a slapped arse I reckon.

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