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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Emma Barnett and Gillian Keegan.

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heldinadream · 16/05/2024 08:46

Today prog R4 now - Emma holding GK to account!
16/05/24 8.45 been going on about 10 minutes really worth listening to!

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Datun · 17/05/2024 23:29

Flickersy · 17/05/2024 23:25

And from that you've extrapolated that "The fastest growing porn category is transwomen in women's toilets, pissing on the seat, uploading selfies of their cocks, and putting sperm on the toilet paper".

If I'm being generous, that is.... Tenuous.

I never actually knew porn hub published statistics, but they prove you very very wrong (page has no explicit imagery): www.pornhub.com/insights/2023-year-in-review

lol. I'm not clicking on it, but I'll take your word for it

Datun · 17/05/2024 23:28

lcakethereforeIam · 17/05/2024 23:21

😨the fact that it's a porn category at all! Bloody hell.

Whether it's the fastest growing or not, that's just bean counting!

IKR! 😄

I could feel a gotcha coming on as to the precise number.

I don't think it's much of a surprise that if men can get into the women's toilets willy-nilly, they're going to exploit it all for sexual kicks.

We've even got the main stream twats like Dylan Mulvaney claiming to cart around Tampax, for all the women who ask him for one.

Ffs.

Flickersy · 17/05/2024 23:25

Datun · 17/05/2024 23:23

You could look on Twitter. I'm not on it, but before Musk stopped people who weren't on it for surfing, were loads of men exposing themselves in the women's loo.

That was also when paedophiles on Twitter were quite happy to advertise what age of child were interested in. Some from birth.

So he may have clamped down since then.

And from that you've extrapolated that "The fastest growing porn category is transwomen in women's toilets, pissing on the seat, uploading selfies of their cocks, and putting sperm on the toilet paper".

If I'm being generous, that is.... Tenuous.

I never actually knew porn hub published statistics, but they prove you very very wrong (page has no explicit imagery): www.pornhub.com/insights/2023-year-in-review

Datun · 17/05/2024 23:23

You could look on Twitter. I'm not on it, but before Musk stopped people who weren't on it for surfing, were loads of men exposing themselves in the women's loo.

That was also when paedophiles on Twitter were quite happy to advertise what age of child were interested in. Some from birth.

So he may have clamped down since then.

24Jules · 17/05/2024 23:21

You posted before my last post.

Yes, again, I arrived here today. No, I haven't read all the other posts/discussions. Is there a rule that says something can't be discussed more than once then?

"But everyone wants the political parties to address the issue."

No doubt. But Labour aren't going to. So it's valid if it's so important to enquire who people are voting for. Will people vote for a party they really hate for everything else, just for this issue?

Because it seems to me that only the Torys will adress the issue, but haven't a hope in hell of winning.

And then there's the 'young' generations. They seem to be pretty well full on pro trans to me.

lcakethereforeIam · 17/05/2024 23:21

😨the fact that it's a porn category at all! Bloody hell.

Whether it's the fastest growing or not, that's just bean counting!

Flickersy · 17/05/2024 23:19

Datun · 17/05/2024 23:18

lol If you want evidence of porn categories, the only way to do that is to go and look, I'm afraid.

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So you have no evidence that "the fastest growing porn category is transwomen in women's toilets, pissing on the seat, uploading selfies of their cocks, and putting sperm on the toilet paper" and you're talking bollocks.

If you're regularly searching for trans porn (I don't judge) it stands to reason you'll see a lot of it.

Datun · 17/05/2024 23:18

Flickersy · 17/05/2024 23:16

I'm not just going to randomly click on PornHub.

Do you have any evidence that the fastest growing category of porn is transgender people in the women's toilets, peeing on the seats and ejaculating on the loo roll?

lol If you want evidence of porn categories, the only way to do that is to go and look, I'm afraid.

Flickersy · 17/05/2024 23:16

Datun · 17/05/2024 23:14

Again, it's not a secret.

Take a look at porn hub.

I'm not just going to randomly click on PornHub.

Do you have any evidence that the fastest growing category of porn is transgender people in the women's toilets, peeing on the seats and ejaculating on the loo roll?

Datun · 17/05/2024 23:15

Flickersy · 17/05/2024 23:13

The fastest growing porn category is transwomen in women's toilets, pissing on the seat, uploading selfies of their cocks, and putting sperm on the toilet paper.

Do you have any evidence at all for this?

We even had a bloke who spunked up into the knickers at Marks & Spencer's, and then hung them back on the rail.

I believe he also smeared it on the handle of the changing room, just for good measure.

Datun · 17/05/2024 23:14

Flickersy · 17/05/2024 23:13

The fastest growing porn category is transwomen in women's toilets, pissing on the seat, uploading selfies of their cocks, and putting sperm on the toilet paper.

Do you have any evidence at all for this?

Again, it's not a secret.

Take a look at porn hub.

Flickersy · 17/05/2024 23:13

The fastest growing porn category is transwomen in women's toilets, pissing on the seat, uploading selfies of their cocks, and putting sperm on the toilet paper.

Do you have any evidence at all for this?

Datun · 17/05/2024 23:13

Whether you or others accept it or not, trans women say they feel like women, wrongly or rightly.

lol. I guarantee you can't describe that without being sexist. No one has.

24Jules · 17/05/2024 23:12

Men don't but trans women say they do.

Like I said. Solve the problem. Outlaw transgender transitioning completly.

If it's all imaginary ideology, it will be doing future potential transgender people a favour anyway, by preventing thrm being sucked into that ideology.

Who are you voting for?

Datun · 17/05/2024 23:12

24Jules · 17/05/2024 23:03

"The men facilities have space for them to pee. They do not need to use the women's facilities. "

What does that mean? The women's facilities have space for them to pee too. Cubicles can be used by both. And a trans woman who has had vaginoplasty, cant pee standing up at a urinal.

Whether you or others accept it or not, trans women say they feel like women, wrongly or rightly. Hence they feel unsafe and vulnerable in a space such as a toilet. Hence they use womens toilets if they can.

Why won't anyone say who they are going to vote for?

Labour or Tory?

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Again, if you read a little more?

There are tons of threads on here asking women who they'll vote for on the basis of which party is doing what about gender politics.

Lots of women will vote Tory, some never will. Some won't vote at all.

It's not a secret!

But everyone wants the political parties to address the issue.

Datun · 17/05/2024 23:09

24Jules · 17/05/2024 22:30

I think pretty much ALL trans women enter a women's toilet, to use the toilet, not to violate women's boundries or to upset women. They just want a pee or a poo, and many don't feel safe themselves in men's toilets.

I agree. With Labour about to win the coming ge with a huge majority, I don't see much changing. Starmer met Rosie Duffield MP the other day, and she reported that she didn't get any apology, which makes it pretty clear that he hasn't changed his view that trans women, are women.

Keegan and whatever she does or does not think/believe, is irrelevant. Even if she survives as an MP, she will be on the opposition benches with no influence at all.

It will be far more interesting when/if Barnett gets to interview Starmer.

Oh Lord, Jules, you really need to have been on these boards a little longer.

The fastest growing porn category is transwomen in women's toilets, pissing on the seat, uploading selfies of their cocks, and putting sperm on the toilet paper.

And nor are women's toilets a shield.

Crikey. We're not therapy, we're not validation, and we're not a shield.

We have biological needs met by our own spaces.

Despite being statistically safe, if transwomen don't want to go into the gents, they can go into a gender neutral toilet. Let's face it, they're bloody everywhere.

The women's are for women and girls only.

The answer is no.

illinivich · 17/05/2024 23:07

There are cubicles in the male facilities, too. Men have no need to be in the womens toilets.

24Jules · 17/05/2024 23:03

"The men facilities have space for them to pee. They do not need to use the women's facilities. "

What does that mean? The women's facilities have space for them to pee too. Cubicles can be used by both. And a trans woman who has had vaginoplasty, cant pee standing up at a urinal.

Whether you or others accept it or not, trans women say they feel like women, wrongly or rightly. Hence they feel unsafe and vulnerable in a space such as a toilet. Hence they use womens toilets if they can.

Why won't anyone say who they are going to vote for?

Labour or Tory?

illinivich · 17/05/2024 23:02

The reason we find it difficult to imagine a man passing as a woman in all situations - especially in a women only space, is that we have a lot of experience with men who think they pass when they don't.

If men really do reliably pass as women, or women are overjoyed to have men in womens spaces. The chants of TWAW wouldnt be necessary, it wouldnt be a 'culture war'.

RainWithSunnySpells · 17/05/2024 22:59

Oh, it didn't like my link.

I just said that I was reminded of the Skirt Go Spinny (What is a woman? Wrong answers only) video and linked to it. If you go to youtube and look at the Skirt Go Spinny channel on there, there is a link to the video a few comments down in the 'Community' tab.

RainWithSunnySpells · 17/05/2024 22:55

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illinivich · 17/05/2024 22:49

I think pretty much ALL trans women enter a women's toilet, to use the toilet, not to violate women's boundries or to upset women. They just want a pee or a poo, and many don't feel safe themselves in men's toilets.

The men facilities have space for them to pee. They do not need to use the women's facilities.

If men dont feel safe using mens facilities, they need to campaign to make them safer, not put themselves into a position where they are likely to distress girls and women.

It doesn't make sense as an excuse anyway - if a man wants to make another man feel unsafe whats stopping him following him into the female space?

24Jules · 17/05/2024 22:40

The idea that most of these male people look, sound or appear to be genuinely women is ludicrous, to be frank.

You clearly haven't met any completely passable trans women. So you wouldn't know. That does not mean they do not exist, just because you or anyone else here hasn't met them.

Too many posts to engage with. Not pushing any agenda.

What agenda do you think I'm pushing then?

24Jules · 17/05/2024 22:30

I think pretty much ALL trans women enter a women's toilet, to use the toilet, not to violate women's boundries or to upset women. They just want a pee or a poo, and many don't feel safe themselves in men's toilets.

I agree. With Labour about to win the coming ge with a huge majority, I don't see much changing. Starmer met Rosie Duffield MP the other day, and she reported that she didn't get any apology, which makes it pretty clear that he hasn't changed his view that trans women, are women.

Keegan and whatever she does or does not think/believe, is irrelevant. Even if she survives as an MP, she will be on the opposition benches with no influence at all.

It will be far more interesting when/if Barnett gets to interview Starmer.

illinivich · 17/05/2024 22:19

The GRA and PC of Gender Reassignment were laws before stonewall added the T. Ive no doubt that there was lots of lobbying going on. But the concept of trans has been codified into law for years.